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re: Thread for haters of Simone Biles
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:26 pm to JustinBRLA
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:26 pm to JustinBRLA
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twisties are very real.
I don't blame her for dropping out. Unlike other sports, she could die if she messes up.
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It's actually sad that even 3 years later, any American with a spittoon and a tooth deficiency is still criticizing her for it.
Its the fault of the media for being so eager to jump on the "mental health hero" narrative that they ignored the fact that she was injured. The gist I got from the media is that sports are not important and its heroic to quit when adversity hits. The issue is that this narrative did Simone a disservice because she didn't quit because it wasn't important. She backed out because her injury was just as debilitating as a torn ACL or broken leg. Instead of focusing on the fact that she was actually injured and explaining to the world that its an actual injury despite it being mental, they ran with "Quitting is heroic".
Just my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 2:35 pm
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Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:42 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Its the fault of the media for being so eager to jump on the "mental health hero" narrative that they ignored the fact that she was injured. The gist I got from the media is that sports are not important and its heroic to quit when adversity hits. The issue is that this narrative did Simone a disservice because she didn't quit because it wasn't important. She backed out because her injury was just as debilitating as a torn ACL or broken leg. Instead of focusing on the fact that she was actually injured and explaining to the world that its an actual injury despite it being mental, they ran with "Quitting is heroic".
Just my 2 cents.
That's a very fair opinion. Most people weren't up for blaming it on the media taking that and running with it but instead labeled her a quitter and attention whore and completely ignored the legitimate reason she needed to drop out.
I think it would have been better for her to come out and say she got the twisties and explain it a little further instead of saying mental health, that would have went a long way towards people hating on her.
People act like she dropped out because she hates America
Or that she cost some poor girl a chance to compete in the Olympic. Umm, her backing out actually let the reserve compete. You know, the reserve position you have on the team in case something like this happens. Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:52 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Most people weren't up for blaming it on the media taking that and running with it but instead labeled her a quitter and attention whore and completely ignored the legitimate reason she needed to drop out.
Yeah I think this is 100% the media's fault. Instead of explaining how detrimental this injury is for a gymnast, they went full blast on "MENTAL HEALTH MATTERS"! They made it seem like she didn't compete cuz she was sad that day.
Had she broken her leg, no one criticizes her. But because they framed it as mental health and not an actual injury, it made her look like a weak quitter who didn't fight through adversity. Which obviously isn't true.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:10 pm to POTUS2024
Here is my hate: I do not understand America’s obsession with women’s gymnastics and women’s soccer.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:20 pm to Junky
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I do not understand America’s obsession with women’s gymnastics and women’s soccer.
We are good at it and America loves a winner. Mystery solved.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 4:04 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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We are good at it and America loves a winner. Mystery solved
And Gymnastics is really fricking hard. We are amazed by the things they can do while smiling, looking pretty, and making it look easy.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:16 pm to bleedsgarnet
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Simone biles has a net worth of 20m and she bailed on the last olympics.
She really needs to step it up and do the events. It's the olympics..
I watched the practice yesterday and she was all smiles and giggles..
She does not seem as focused as the others. She seems loves the attention but not the work..
And I guess that's what 20m will do for the desire.
To be honest, I'm surprised she's not worth more than $20M. Back to back world all-around a decade ago, then the crazy dominance at Rio in 2016, long string of US titles, took over as most Olympic and World medals...and to think what she would be worth now if NIL appeared around 2016. She had committed to UCLA for gymnastics but went pro to make money. If NIL had been around, I can't see how Nike would not have thrown $5M/yr at her, or more, to go to Oregon and be a non-stop face for Nike, or take the same money and stay at UCLA but still be the face of Nike.
Part of the artistry in gymnastics is not showing the effort and making things look easy when they aren't.
Simone has always been 'all smiles'. A lot of gymnasts are like that. This video is cued up. Commentator mentions it, you can go to the beginning and see it through her floor routine, and you can also see the famous 'bee incident' where she is scared of a bee but smiling - she and others were given some flowers on the podium and hers had a bee in it. This is from 2014.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:13 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Unlike other sports, she could die if she messes up.
Yep. The have pits lined with lime outside every gymnastics venue to bury all the Twisties victims during the competition in mass graves.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 9:15 am to SoFla Tideroller
Many women have died/been paralyzed in gymnastics incidents.
I actually was a decent tumbler when I was in elementary school. I could do a backflip with a twist in it. I distinctly remember just losing it in the air one time and it taking me months to get over the mental block on how to do it again. It was really weird.
I do agree that them labeling it as 'mental health' was weird and probably made people react to it differently.
I actually was a decent tumbler when I was in elementary school. I could do a backflip with a twist in it. I distinctly remember just losing it in the air one time and it taking me months to get over the mental block on how to do it again. It was really weird.
I do agree that them labeling it as 'mental health' was weird and probably made people react to it differently.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:24 am to auburn32
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Many women have died/been paralyzed in gymnastics incidents.
Name five over the last 50 years at the Olympics.
I mean, I agree. I remember Joe Montana bowing out of the Super Bowl because he was worried about being paralyzed when he had that back issue. John Elway, too, over fear his knee would cripple him for life.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:24 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Yep. The have pits lined with lime outside every gymnastics venue to bury all the Twisties victims during the competition in mass graves.
It must hurt to be this insecure.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:29 am to bleedsgarnet
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Simone biles has a net worth of 20m and she bailed on the last olympics.
She really needs to step it up and do the events. It's the olympics..
I watched the practice yesterday and she was all smiles and giggles..
She does not seem as focused as the others. She seems loves the attention but not the work..
And I guess that's what 20m will do for the desire
Posted on 7/27/24 at 1:58 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Name five over the last 50 years at the Olympics.
I mean, I agree. I remember Joe Montana bowing out of the Super Bowl because he was worried about being paralyzed when he had that back issue. John Elway, too, over fear his knee would cripple him for life.
I don't see any NFL football deaths in the past 50 years due to competition. A college gymnast died in 2019 from competition and Elena Mukhina was paralyzed and then died due to a training accident getting ready for the Olympics. Thousands more football players than gymnasts at these top levels.
Regardless of the comparisons between sports, the fact remains that Biles had a situation that put her at grave risk and if she remained in the competition, but free of injury, her scores would have been really bad. She wasn't even completing the skills she was supposed to complete. They would have destroyed her on difficulty and she would have destroyed herself on execution and it would have undoubtedly sent the US off the podium.
Her choices were to ruin the team's chances and risk injury, or bow out and give the team a fighting chance for gold.
You really have to go look at the scores, if you want to ignore the injury thing, to find that she made the right decision.
Simone can post a 15.4 or so on vault but in the final she did a 13.7 and then withdrew. If they kept putting her out there and she did similar things, losing 10% or so of her score, in all the events, US is off the podium. She contributed 57 points in the qualifications. If she suffers a 10% reduction in scores, that's 5.7 points and US is off the podium easily. Even a 5% reduction takes them off the podium. And, a 10% reduction may be generous. That problem would have compounded on the longer events where you have a bunch of stuff to do and things have to be put together in sequence. I think she would have ended up with some single digit scores. That would have put the US dead last. Imagine the hate she would get if she did that.
There's no doubt she made the right decision.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 3:41 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I mean, I agree. I remember Joe Montana bowing out of the Super Bowl because he was worried about being paralyzed when he had that back issue. John Elway, too, over fear his knee would cripple him for life
This is a horrifically bad comparison.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 4:03 pm to POTUS2024
So they are setting the stage for her to quit again. Typical.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 8:17 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Every fat, racist redneck is going to get triggered
And every effeminate, skinny fat, LMNOP, virtue signaling, race victim/ally is going to defend her.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:38 am to POTUS2024
No one likes a quitter
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:33 am to JustinBRLA
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Fact: Regardless of the cause (it is mental), twisties are very real.
Here's another fact: the twisties were not her original reason for dropping out. This is what she said originally when asked why she had dropped out of the All-Around competition:
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“It’s been really stressful this Olympic Games,” said Biles, who came to Tokyo as arguably the Games' biggest star. “It’s been a long week. It’s been a long Olympic process. It’s been a long year. Just a lot of different variables and I think we’re just a little bit too stressed out, but we should be out here having fun and sometimes that’s not the case.”
In her original press conference the twisties were never mentioned, not once. It wasn't until after the backlash started that people began to mention them and then that became the narrative going forward. Originally she talked about the stress of the Games and how much pressure she was under to perform.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:35 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Name five over the last 50 years at the Olympics.
Not all at the Olympics, but all because they messed up.
Adriana Duffy, Puerto Rico, 1989 Worlds, vault, paralyzed.
Sang LAN, China, 1998 Goodwill Games, vault, paralyzed.
Elena Mukhina, USSR, 1980 Olympics, floor, quadriplegic, died from complications.
Julissa Gomez, USA, 1988 World Sports Fair in Japan, vault, quadriplegic, died from completions.
Melanie Coleman, USA, NCAA gymnast at UConn, 2019, bars, died.
Taylor Lindsay-Noel, Canada, elite Olympic hopeful for London, 2008, bars, training in gym. Quadreplegic.
Mukhina and Gomez are the most well known of these. Coleman is most recent. There are many who have been paralyzed, mostly on vault, the event that truly made Simone withdraw.
Is this enough of them? It was extremely easy to put this list together as 4 of them I’d already heard of.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:42 am to RollTide1987
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In her original press conference the twisties were never mentioned, not once. It wasn't until after the backlash started that people began to mention them and then that became the narrative going forward. Originally she talked about the stress of the Games and how much pressure she was under to perform.
It was obvious to people knowledgeable about gymnastics that she was lost in the air. She was explaining WHY is happened, not WHAT happened.
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