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tigerbait2010
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Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
I grew up with a Southern Baptist deacon dad, so I've always been told the end times are near to be completely honest; not by him but Baptist rhetoric. It wasn't until I got out of that small town bubble until my suspicions were correct-life is fricking amazing right now.

anyway, am I crazy for thinking this isn't even up for discussion? How did God not seriously come during the world wars, crusades, civil war, etc where social and economic times were much more dire, on top of the fact significantly more people died then?

World hunger has been cut in half, our quality of life continues to improve, medical advancements continue to defy the odds, etc...am I just a delusional libertarian, or should I actually consider the possibility of extremists (maybe an exaggerated term) FINALLY having some validity after decades of scare tactics? Yes, we've been hearing about the end times for a very long time now when they had much more credibility in the past (Cold War, world wars, etc)


I'm going to assume that we need to rid ourselves of a barbaric, third-world religion (the "religion of peace"), but otherwise we should be set

/drunk ramble
This post was edited on 7/15 at 7:31 am


olddawg26
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
We'd be even more advanced if religion hadn't have held back science during the dark ages.


tigerbait2010
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
Well every great nation falls, and the dark ages was after the fall of rome. fack, I used to be confident I'd live to a 100 with medical advancements


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ReauxlTide222
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
Pretty sure that type of talk is used to control people. Nothing more, nothing less.


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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
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am I just a delusional libertarian,


Yes


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Flame Salamander
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
I congratulate you for being able to make the leap into sentience! Seriously, not everyone can do what you did. It boggles my mind that people can believe what they do.

It is the same as arguing with anyone who holds a strong personal belief. Most (many) people refuse to consider new information and continue to cling to their beliefs.

This Political Board is a perfect example of that. Many of the Conservative posters here think that I'm a Liberal because I challenge their simplistic, talking point beliefs.....not realizing that I am a political atheist.....I don't believe in the two party, us vs. them, Left vs. Right mentality that the corporate masters spoon feed the masses like pablum in order to exert and maintain control. I suppose it makes the world easier for them to understand if they can only see it in a two dimensional manner.


CollegeFBRules
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
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World hunger has been cut in half, our quality of life continues to improve, medical advancements continue to defy the odds, etc...am I just a delusional libertarian, or should I actually consider the possibility of extremists FINALLY having some validity after decades of scare tactics.


No, there is zero validity to life being worse today than at any time in the past, regardless of the overtime you read or hear about how the world is going to hell.


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dcbl
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
religion board

but...

this comment by Jesus:

quote:

'But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. ... So what was it like in Noah's day, before he entered into the ark and in Lot's day before God destroyed Sodom?


According to Titus Flavius Josephus; men were marrying men in the "times of Noah"

And Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt... Right after that, Lot's daughters got him drunk and fricked him.

Of coarse, we all know that the men of Sodom tried to rape the angels that came to visit Lot, but Lot offered his daughter to the men to use for sexual gratification instead.

So, the "end times" conspiracy theories are certainly interesting...
This post was edited on 7/15 at 5:11 am


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BigEdLSU
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
I was laughed at 6 months ago for pointing out that prophesy tells us that the west will soon destroy Iran and Isis, and the west will break into four kingdoms.

Doesn't sound so farfetched to think of a mad trump in office, and brexit, frexit etc.

The wrath of God is building.


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PatDyesPants
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
I assume this is the atheist circle jerk thread?


Wolfhound45
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
Let me help you out...

...knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 2 Peter 3:3,4

You don't have to believe it. Does not matter to me. Just provide proper context.

You're welcome.


tigerbait2010
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
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I assume this is the atheist circle jerk thread?




Why does suggesting the end times not being near make me an atheist?


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Wtodd
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
Why are you arguing with them? Believe what you want & let them believe what they want.


tigerbait2010
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Member since May 2006
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
I just like how I've gotten more downvotes than responses


Just because I didn't grow up to be Southern baptist, that doesn't exactly make me an atheist by any stretch of the imagination. I definitely believe there's something better than this. Still, what reason is there to believe the end times are actually near when it's arguably the most peaceful time in world history? I remember my old pastor preaching about the end times when Bush was in office and there were rarely terrorist attacks.


I'm not implying that God isn't real, but I would surely think there were multiple times in world history that signified the end times much, MUCH more than fricking 2016


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tigerbait2010
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
I guess "arguing" is a poor use of words. "Discussing" or even "debating" should have probably been used


Luke
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
There is still time for you to accept the teachings of the Bible, prophecy is being fulfilled before your very own eyes if you just open your eyes...


cito
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
Please elaborate


Luke
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
Read the book... Will link some info later, currently on iPhone


cito
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
The bible? I have.


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SirWinston
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re: Arguing with those believing in apocalyptic times
The fact that this amazing and insightful post is downloaded by a more than a 2 to 1 ratio shows how poisonous religion is.

even the people on this board, who I share so many opinions with lately, are largely blinded and brainwashed to/by the evils of religion.

I had a similar Christian upbringing and even now some of my family members are saying that Obama won't let an election be held because of martial law and that old Jesus is on the way back any moment now


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