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Urban Meyer believes NIL in college football has evolved into cheating
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:14 pm
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"If you're a woman basketball player like the great girl from Iowa and they want to put her on a billboard and pay her, they should be able to do that," Meyer said. "But that's not what happened. What's happened is the arms race of collecting money from donors and the donors are simply paying players. That's what I understand is happening, and I don't like that."
Meyer last coached in college football during the 2018 season. Though that was only six years ago, it was another era entirely. Since Meyer's seven-year run at Ohio State concluded, the arrival of NIL, unlimited transferring and conference realignment have rocked the sport.
"If Lou Holtz or Urban Meyer or Marvin Harrison Jr., or C.J. Stroud, they want to go use their name and help sell cars, help a business, that's great," Meyer said. "But to have a 17-year-old demand money for a visit, to pay these players a lot of money to go visit a charity for 20 minutes and they write you a check for $50,000, that's cheating. That's not what this is all about. I'm very disappointed in where it went."
While a large-scale revenue-sharing model is in the developing stages in college athletics, player compensation for now is stuck in the collective model under the guise of "NIL," which doesn't sit well with Meyer.
"There's these things called collectives where they go out and get money from donors and get this big, giant mass of money and they pay players," he said. "That's not what the intent is."
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
always find it hilarious when the more notorious cheaters get mad about people doing what they did their entire career
he's not wrong but the wrong person to be saying it
he's not wrong but the wrong person to be saying it
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
at this point, the NCAA can't do anything about it
resolving this outstanding lawsuit is the first stage of going to a revenue sharing model
at that point maybe something can be done to curb what's going on behind the scenes and then you can set some guidelines and parameters to make this work
I also believe it's only a matter of time before SEC and Big Ten break away from the NCAA
At that point then some rules can be established to prevent what's going on in the portal and if athletes don't want to play under those rules then see you later
resolving this outstanding lawsuit is the first stage of going to a revenue sharing model
at that point maybe something can be done to curb what's going on behind the scenes and then you can set some guidelines and parameters to make this work
I also believe it's only a matter of time before SEC and Big Ten break away from the NCAA
At that point then some rules can be established to prevent what's going on in the portal and if athletes don't want to play under those rules then see you later
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
It’s almost like anyone with sense knew what it would turn into and that’s the entire reason the NCAA never wanted to go down that slippery slope.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:21 pm to RLDSC FAN
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If you're a woman basketball player like the great girl from Iowa and they want to put her on a billboard and pay her, they should be able to do that," Meyer said. "But that's not what happened. What's happened is the arms race of collecting money from donors and the donors are simply paying players. That's what I understand is happening, and I don't like that."
I like how the only tangible difference in these two scenarios is the player gets paid more in the second scenario. Purely rooted out of jealousy and or greed.
Urban being the messenger on this is just another layer of comedy.
There are certainly issues with the current model, but most of not all of them are related to the transfer portal, not NIL. It’s funny that people make NIL the downfall of society, when all the the things they don’t like about NIL are actually a cause of the portal rules and not the ability for players to get paid
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:21 pm to lsufball19
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he's not wrong but the wrong person to be saying it
Right. I find it the height of irony that Urban and Little Nicky are such strong opponents of what they built their whole career on.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:21 pm to nicholastiger
It doesn't really matter. I don't see much difference between a car dealer paying someone for an endorsement or just getting together with a few boosters and paying the player a little more directly.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:25 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I don't see much difference between a car dealer paying someone for an endorsement or just getting together with a few boosters and paying the player a little more directly.
Disagree
Companies paying you to boost their brand is fine
But what we have is just paying to play football. Boosting some fake bogus LLC to cover for it
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:26 pm to MOT
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It’s almost like anyone with sense knew what it would turn into and that’s the entire reason the NCAA never wanted to go down that slippery slope.
The NCAA didn’t want to go down that route because they didn’t want anyone asking how anything about their entire set up was ever legal in the first place
They could’ve done a bunch of things to get ahead of this and work torwards a working model before everything came to a head in the courts. Instead they were content to pretend like it wasn’t happening and sit on their hands and collect the cash as long as it is funneling to them
And again the “slippery slope” is a portal thing, not NIL. NIL would be hardly talked about outside the off-season if there were any controls on player movement left. But because the NCAA refused to ever budge, it left it to the courts to blow it all up and put us in this reactive spot for the sport. But the NCAA knew once this day came, either way their time in the sun was over, so they are happy to collect that bag as long as it’s there
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:26 pm to RLDSC FAN
Apparently doing things the right way involves recruiting drug dealing gang bangers then putting a conservative Christian QB as the face of the team.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:27 pm to Tangineck
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Right. I find it the height of irony that Urban and Little Nicky are such strong opponents of what they built their whole career on.
They are upset because doing it behind closed doors and not getting caught is a skill that is no longer usable.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:27 pm to Cosmo
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Companies paying you to boost their brand is fine
college football programs paying players to boost their brand as opposed to car dealerships doing the same isn't inherently different
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:28 pm to Cosmo
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Companies paying you to boost their brand is fine
But what we have is just paying to play football. Boosting some fake bogus LLC to cover for it
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:30 pm to wildtigercat93
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And again the “slippery slope” is a portal thing, not NIL
bingo. the portal and unmitigated transfers is a way, way bigger problem than paying players. Pro leagues pay their players, but they don't have these problems because there are rules and structure for roster moves
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:32 pm to lsufball19
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always find it hilarious when the more notorious cheaters get mad about people doing what they did their entire career
Takes one to know one.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:33 pm to RLDSC FAN
More like it evolved from cheating
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:51 pm to teke184
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Apparently doing things the right way involves recruiting drug dealing gang bangers then putting a conservative Christian QB as the face of the team.
You could put Christians all over the field, but it isn’t “doing the right thing” to go 7-5
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:59 pm to chalmetteowl
My point was that this is a guy who was rolling out Aaron Hernandez is also talking about doing things “the right way”.
Not that the Pouncey brothers or other Florida players were that much better.
Not that the Pouncey brothers or other Florida players were that much better.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:29 pm to teke184
I keep hearing that the Pouncey brothers associated with Hernandez. What did they do?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:23 pm to MOT
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It’s almost like anyone with sense knew what it would turn into and that’s the entire reason the NCAA never wanted to go down that slippery slope.
The NCAA didn't want to go down this slope because they liked having the power to decide which schools could get away with cheating and which ones couldn't.
frick every single member of their staff and all of their little committees full of useless university admins flying to conferences and trying to exercise control over athletics. Hope they whither on the vine.
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