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re: Cost of living an inflation is bad, so why do people keep doing useless things

Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:01 pm to
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You'd be shocked who I was competing with at the 450k house level. I wasn't fighting with other accountants, finance bros, and bankers that's for sure.


How the hell would you know?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55889 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:03 pm to
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You'd be shocked who I was competing with at the 450k house level. I wasn't fighting with other accountants, finance bros, and bankers that's for sure
well yeah, that’s just an average house now so that makes sense

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I'm irritated that people with less than 20k savings in their late 30s with kids are going to Disney world on credit cards.
how do so many of you know so much about other people’s finances?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35568 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:07 pm to
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how do so many of you know so much about other people’s finances?


Arguably the most perplexing of all OT’isms.

Many posters here claim to have detailed knowledge of the finances of their friends, family members, neighbors and even random people they see in public. It’s amazing.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65147 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:08 pm to
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expensive party with clowns, bouncy houses and catered food.

i won't comment on the catered food part, but our next door neighbor did a bouncy house. It was way cheaper than I thought. Think he said it was like $250 for 6 hours. And they ordered like 4-5 pizzas for everyone and had a normal birthday cake from kroger. Don't see that as much different from parties I went to as a kid at the skating rink or whatever price-wise.
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professional photographers.

are not a new thing in this generation
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You got to have lavish baby reveal events.

lavish? eh, some do. Most just invite their friend to their house and have a cake that's pink/blue or something the emits pink/blue smoke. Either option is very cheap, as in less than $20. This type of thing is also way more common for a first kid than a second kid. Our first kid was conceived during COVID. we knew the gender, but we surprised our families via facetime with a thing we got from a fireworks store for like $5. Our second kid, my SIL knew and surprised us with a baby gift of a onesie with "little sister" on it for the new baby. We opened the gift in the living room at our house with like 5-6 people there.
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Then when your child graduates from high school, you don’t have the simple one picture with cap and gown taken by the school photographer, but you have to hire a personal photographer to provide a portfolio of custom pics.

professional senior portraits have been around forever. My parents are almost 70 and had them
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kids are now having pre-k graduations with caps and gowns.

the pre-schools and daycares do this. This isn't some added expense the parents choose to do. And for as much as childcare costs these days, I like knowing that at least some of it goes to having parties that are "free." I'm paying the same rates if I participate or not, might as well let my kid have fun when the school puts something on

I don't disagree with your overall premise that people spend money on stupid shite to impress people on social media, but a lot of what you listed has been going on for decades
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32797 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:20 pm to
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$80 for 2 digital prints at the daycare.

That's wild, ours is also a professional photographer and is $15 for the first digital copy, and $5 for each other one. So, we pay $30 for 4 digital copies.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32797 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:22 pm to
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Many posters here claim to have detailed knowledge of the finances of their friends, family members, neighbors and even random people they see in public. It’s amazing.

I guess they are just making assumptions, which are most likely incorrect. I would bet that the vast majority of people that I know would guess that my wife is the breadwinner in our family because I work from home and she's a healthcare provider
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55889 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:33 pm to
Right. I can’t get too specific but I can see how people who know me might assume I’m struggling financially right now (or maybe just getting out on the other end of it) because I didn’t work for an extended period.

What they don’t know is I made A LOT(at least for me) the prior 18 months and had some little side projects that made me some money during that time.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71547 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:40 pm to
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How the hell would you know?


Statistics? Data provided by my realtor and others? The fact I work in that field? Observations based on going to many open houses?

I don't disagree 450k is average at this point and not big baller status. I am, based on most financial models, well within the top 10% of the city where I live. With current interest rates, the loan required for this, assuming 20% down, is costing a family around 3,300 a month. That's 39,600 a year. Let's assume anyone 40% or higher is leveraged. That's bare minimum 99,000 a year post tax. For shits and giggles, thats top 15% of household incomes where I live. Combine with the fact our loan officer laughed at our cut off (which was 450k) and confirmed we didn't want to go a good bit higher, I feel like I'm making a safe assumption.

End of the day, I don't care anywhere near as much as OP. As long as people that did not save don't try to have the government take and/or cheapen my retirement and savings I couldn't give a shite less what they do. I don't stare at random people at the store and calculate their net worth, only reason I even remotely cared to think about it with houses was the process was absolutely brutal and I needed to know why I was losing on houses I kept bidding on, and with that data, needed to make a call if we wanted to move up to the next tier (500-600k).
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57469 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:44 pm to
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The 20 dollar a month interest free cell phone payment is the real back breaker though.

I just paid a nice chunk of change to pay mine off because needed to in order to get off of and switch my current plan. Anyways, I will never again finance a phone. I could have sworn I was like half way through paying and I was only like 5 payments in. So dumb. I'll just buy the phone outright next upgrade and keep my cell phone bill lower.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4802 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:48 pm to
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Many posters here claim to have detailed knowledge of the finances of their friends, family members, neighbors and even random people they see in public. It’s amazing.

Why is that amazing? You see enough blue collar workers and their wives who work at the quick stop or whatever living a lifestyle that I can't comfortably afford making well north of six figures and it's not difficult to deduce that tons of them are in an astronomical amount of debt. Sure, one or two of those families could be independently wealthy from an inheritance or something, but you see it again and again and again and it's just logical.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31803 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:51 pm to
Boomers and their greed are exactly why this country is in the economic shape it’s in.

Keep on raiding the social security purse that we keep having to involuntarily stuff with the promise that it will be there for us. It won’t because boomers can’t stop being the greedy generation they are
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4802 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:54 pm to
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Boomers and their greed are exactly why this country is in the economic shape it’s in.

Please explain in detail why the baby boomers are to blame
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13142 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:05 pm to
I bought a dozen or so troll dolls, made a potato gun, and launched them at the kiddies loading on the school bus.

If it wasn't for inflation I could've afforded the gas to get away from the cops.

frick you Joe Biden.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57469 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:06 pm to
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With current interest rates, the loan required for this, assuming 20% down, is costing a family around 3,300 a mont

I closed on a house last month and was shocked at what I was approved for. I'd be eating Ramen noodles for the rest of my life if I took out as much as they said I could.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31803 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:07 pm to
Bad policy
Distorted housing markets going back to 2008
Peak burden of retirement age boomers pulling off the same tit
Out of touch mentality as
It relates to younger generations as it relates to accumulating wealth and or just living in general.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147505 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:08 pm to
don't even start me on how rotten kids are with no discipline.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55889 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:10 pm to
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You see enough blue collar workers and their wives who work at the quick stop or whatever living a lifestyle that I can't comfortably afford making well north of six figures and it's not difficult to deduce that tons of them are in an astronomical amount of debt.
lol where do you see this? I don't know a single adult who works at a gas station or store who lives anything close to a "comfortable life".
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72921 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:23 pm to
People are soft. Most people today don't even know what bad times look like.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5623 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:30 pm to
I feel you. That's why I bought a new car in December. Decided to go green.



This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:34 pm to
beautiful car.
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