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re: What do you people have against solar farms?
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:53 am to Kingpenm3
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:53 am to Kingpenm3
It’s pretty simple.
It’s an inefficient energy source funded by the federal government to line the pockets of wealthy elites with government money.
Second, if you’re driving home from work and pass 1000 acres of trees and a few deer grazing on the side of the road that’s a nice thing. Versus passing 1000 acres of glass and mirrors and no deer. People move to the country to get away from this crap. Put it on top of a building if you want it. Not in a field that used to be crawfish and cattle until the liberal screwed over the farmers and killed the markets.
It’s an inefficient energy source funded by the federal government to line the pockets of wealthy elites with government money.
Second, if you’re driving home from work and pass 1000 acres of trees and a few deer grazing on the side of the road that’s a nice thing. Versus passing 1000 acres of glass and mirrors and no deer. People move to the country to get away from this crap. Put it on top of a building if you want it. Not in a field that used to be crawfish and cattle until the liberal screwed over the farmers and killed the markets.
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:00 am to WeeWee
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Is it your land that they are being put on? If the answer is no then STFU.
Nope. It's okay for American taxpayers to oppose wasting tax dollars.
There's cheaper options for government to accomplish nothing and still waste tax dollars rather than eliminating American farmland in the name of Environmental Justice.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:03 am to Porpus
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Probably so, but the NRC itself is a close second. Nuclear power is the most ridiculously over-regulated industry.
they're a huge PITA but it's at least a know quantity. You can build consistent assholery into a financial model that investors can understand. Whats hard to build in is a bunch of pre notice to proceed litigation fees, especially when your fighting a two front war against local attorneys and the local jurisdiction. it's hard to convince people to give you a couple billion dollars to build a plant that has really restrictive location requirements on the best day due to grid congestion and demand, then tell them you'll need 25M in legal fees just to fight off the locals before a shovel ever breaks ground. No one wants to spend money on that no matter how many tax credits it will crank out in the future.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:08 am to tigereye58
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Second, if you’re driving home from work and pass 1000 acres of trees and a few deer grazing on the side of the road that’s a nice thing. Versus passing 1000 acres of glass and mirrors and no deer. People move to the country to get away from this crap. Put it on top of a building if you want it. Not in a field that used to be crawfish and cattle until the liberal screwed over the farmers and killed the markets.
Because society has denied landowners basic human rights like cell phone towers and oil wells they are almost forced to put solar panels and windmills just to get by. Talk about an oppressed minority
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:09 am to Kingpenm3
They’re an eyesore and take up hundreds even thousands acres of prime farmland and generate very little power for the land they use
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:22 am to StTiger
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Ok. But the thread and my post were about Louisiana
Ok. But the issue isn't limited to just the state of Louisiana.....
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:23 am to deltaland
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They’re an eyesore
Making pastureland look like strip malls.
I supposer urbanites who never visit the countryside wouldnt care.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:29 am to holdmuh keystonelite
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It's a waste of money. You ever see how many get completely damaged by hail, etc every year?
Roofs too. And cars. All a waste of money having to repair those things.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:47 am to deltaland
I haven’t seen this mentioned but you also have to consider where these are being installed compared to urban areas where the power is needed. Without expanding our transmission network, it makes zero sense to put a giant solar farm out in the middle of nowhere because the power must be integrated into the existing system with more power lines. And the longer those power lines, the more voltage drop you get. It’s the perfect illustration of the NIMBY nature of wind and solar.
A gas or nuke plant is so energy dense that it can be plopped right next to a city on a small plot of land and tie in to the existing grid. Massive amounts of extra transmission lines aren’t needed.
A gas or nuke plant is so energy dense that it can be plopped right next to a city on a small plot of land and tie in to the existing grid. Massive amounts of extra transmission lines aren’t needed.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:48 am to bapple
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I haven’t seen this mentioned but you also have to consider where these are being installed compared to urban areas where the power is needed. Without expanding our transmission network, it makes zero sense to put a giant solar farm out in the middle of nowhere because the power must be integrated into the existing system with more power lines. And the longer those power lines, the more voltage drop you get. It’s the perfect illustration of the NIMBY nature of wind and solar.
The area for this particular farm is right next to the Entergy's main East-West transmission line through the state.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:55 am to Kingpenm3
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The area for this particular farm is right next to the Entergy's main East-West transmission line through the state.
Every generation unit, be it solar, wind, NG, nuclear, etc. requires a congestion analysis and transmission plan to get interconnected. They would never get approval to interconnect without it.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:59 am to Lonnie Utah
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For example, I live in a state that gets close to 300 days of sunshine a year, but less than 15" of rain. So most of the land isn't useable for crops without significant irrigation. However, you can put a solar farm there and make it productive because solar doesn't need water.
Those solar farms out there can be pretty hard on desert tortoise.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:23 am to WeeWee
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Is it your land that they are being put on? If the answer is no then STFU.
I like people who use this reasoning as if it is some gotcha. They surely wouldn't bitch at all if it was in their backyard, or if a rock quarry was put in across their street, or if Billy in the neighborhood decided to start raising hogs or to build a few chicken houses. I mean......it is his land, right? You should just shut the frick up.
Now, let us do away with all of the HOAs.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:47 am to SWLA92
I’d argue solar farms would be better for the land in comparison to row cropping, spraying heavy amounts of chemicals on it, and continuing to strip the nutrients from the ground. Now pasture raised regenerative farming would be a different story.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:07 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Ok. But the issue isn't limited to just the state of Louisiana.....
So you pick out one thing I said that was specifically relevant to Louisiana in a thread revolved around an article in Louisiana, ignored all the none Louisiana specific stuff, to point out Utah never had hurricanes?
Ok. Oh no, the glare could confuse the Mormons into thinking there are more golden plates woooaoahah no solar farms in Utah!
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:12 pm to el Gaucho
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Kamala is gonna put a methane tax on your cows baw
Ha! sorry Kamala it's not a cattle farm.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:17 pm to Lonnie Utah
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I'll say this, from a harm to the environment perspective, solar farms are way better than dams and windmills.
I agree to an extent. It’s great in places you can’t farm or ranch (the cities and desert), but takes up too much land for most places.
I think windmills are absolutely fricking with our weather. Dams too, but I think their reach tends to be too local to be noticed.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:26 pm to Kingpenm3
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you people
what do you mean "you people"?
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:46 pm to LSURussian
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Solar farms suck up all the solar energy in the area which causes wide spread crop failures and below freezing temperatures near the solar farms year round.
I reeeeeally hope this post was a joke
Posted on 8/22/24 at 1:16 pm to Kingpenm3
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A packed house of people opposing something that would benefit the community and virtually none of them would ever even see.
Solar Farms are yet another subsidized land user that consumes valuable space that could better be used for housing or cattle.
Solar panels are great for supplementing base load generation and decentralizing the electric grid. They belong on top of homes, commercial buildings, and parking decks. They don't belong on otherwise good, vacant land.
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