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re: We're all stuck in a rut trying to do what people who lied to us told us to do

Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
62251 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:15 pm to

quote:

Redneck Rivera



Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6819 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two


Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36231 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

We are the most privileged group of people to ever walk the earth
This. I get the OP's frustration but we are living in the most privileged society of all time. It's easy to shift the mindset to gratitude when you think about what previous generations had to go through just to survive.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16189 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:19 pm to
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pick your taxes how will your greatest ally buy bombs?

6B to your greatest bogeyman, but NYC alone gets 7.5B, and NY state over $100B a year from FedGov to consistently ignore the feds when they feel like it.

And we also pay for problems that their shitty policies exacerbate, so there is little consequence for Hochul and Mamdani.
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
1079 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:21 pm to
last time i checked , what you described is called "life"
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3730 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:22 pm to
Sir,
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Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
1503 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:23 pm to
If you don't like your situation, figure out what you have to do to change it. And do that until your situation is changed.

There is rarely a situation that can't be changed without effort and time. And this "woe is me, this is everyone else's fault" attitude won't get you shite in life. Your words, and your actions quite literally decide how your life is going to be.

You will be depressed until the very end if you keep this attitude. Not gonna lie, that sounds like a miserable way to live.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 12:32 pm
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1735 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:29 pm to
On one hand I get the thought that we are privileged, get to work.

On the other hand, this might be the best time to question where the world is going. Tech companies are spending $1T a year to replace the labor market. Yall really think the UBI isn’t going to be scraps?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59231 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:29 pm to
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6B to your greatest bogeyman

How much did the Iraq war cost
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8641 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:30 pm to
I’d rather wake up knowing my day has a shape to it (some structure, some predictability) than step out into the world with nothing guaranteed except uncertainty. The idea of spending every morning hunting for my next meal might sound pure or even noble, but to me, it feels like a constant gamble with survival.

When I go to work, I’m trading my time and effort for something stable. It’s not always exciting, and it’s not always easy, but it gives me control over my life in a different way. I know that at the end of the day, I can provide for myself. I can plan. I can rest without wondering if I’ve done enough just to make it to tomorrow.

There’s a kind of quiet comfort in that. Being able to build something over time instead of starting from zero every single day. I don’t have to rely on luck or chance or whether the conditions are right. I rely on consistency, on effort that compounds instead of disappears.

Maybe there’s something admirable about a life lived closer to survival, where every meal is earned in the most direct way possible. But for me, that kind of life feels less like freedom and more like pressure without pause. I’d rather work, earn, and create stability—not because it’s easier, but because it allows me to live, not just survive.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
7092 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:35 pm to
My Grandparents, great grandparents and great great grandparents all did manual labor and farm work on their own land. They had nothing and did nothing. Never able to travel, go to college, have experiences etc. Everything was a struggle. Worked until they died to support themselves. No such thing as retirement. Couldn’t afford medical care they needed. It’s all relative. This “they” lied to us mentality is silly. Do what you want but be prepared to live with those consequences.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17645 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:42 pm to
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We're all stuck in a rut
Not me mother fricker, I drive a Toyota.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87384 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Before we know it, our kids aren't children anymore and want nothing to do with us.


I don't know what this is about. Modern parents spend WAY more time with their kids on recreational stuff than probably any prior generation in world history.

quote:

Our parents are frail and/or deceased.


How we treat our parents/elderly is certainly something the West needs to have a long look at

quote:

Then suddenly the kids are out of the house, we're burying parents, and staring down the barrel of 60 years old hoping and praying that somehow retirement is good to us and we're wishing we had taken more time for ourselves and our families when we still had the chance.


I really don't know anyone living like this. I think people are like this - working to the bone and not seeing their kids - I think very few of them are the type on this board. Again, this generation goes on vacation, does kids sports, takes their kids to do things, etc. more than any other group in the history of the world. Whether or not people are getting valuable experiences out of it varies, I'm sure.

I'm a traditionalist and romantic about the past. But the idea that any prior era was more kid-obsessed or devoted to quality family time than the last 40 years or so is absolutely insane.
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
3997 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:54 pm to
"You fcked up, you trusted us"

- Animal House
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
17008 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:55 pm to
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That's why I sell feet pics on OnlyFans.


What you really mean is that you out things in your butt for dudes to see online.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18382 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:08 pm to
I decided to go to college because I wanted to learn.

I graduated with a stem degree and got a job in pharma right after college. I did that job and decided I wanted to do more with my life, so I decided to go to dental school in my mid thirties with a wife and two small children. It helped that my wife had a great job and was able to support us on her income.

I graduated dental school and worked for other dentists for two and a half years.

I networked and found a practice to buy and built it in my image for 24 years. Along the way I paid my student loans off, practice loans and the office that I designed and built.

I sold the practice and real estate to a protégée 2.5 years ago and retired or so I thought.

I we moved and I missed dentistry so I am back working for another dentist and loving it.

Nobody told me to do any of this. I did it on my own.

Maybe you should make some decisions for yourself, come up with a plan and stop letting others decide what is best for you.



Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5246 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:13 pm to
I’m seriously considering early retiring next year. I’m done, and ready to have some of my own life. House almost paid for. I’ll likely work part time, but something I choose to do.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
2247 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:20 pm to
You see motivational videos of how to be successful, and make you feel lazy if you don’t outwork your peers. Your Sunday night should be to get a jumpstart on the work week, wake up at 6AM to get a head start on the workday, work late to ensure your product is perfect. All bullshite.

You then have the flip side saying that no one ever regrets taking time off from work, working until you’re dead tired, etc.

It’s all a balance. We work to live, not live to work. It’s important to be successful, so you can afford to live the life you want to live, whatever that may be. But not work so much that you can’t.

If you’re young and reading this, work very hard in your 20s when your future family doesn’t exist yet. Get the experience to become more efficient at your craft and rise to an appropriate level to earn a sustainable good salary. When family comes, adjust and put your efforts into your family. The problem here is you can miss out on some of the most fun years of your life with only yourself to worry about and could cap your earning potential in your highest earning years in your 40s/50s if you put your career on cruise control at 30.

It’s a no win game, just have to find that balance to lose less.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:28 pm to
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We've been told to get a job with a good salary, benefits, and a 401k, so we did. Those of us who haven't done so yet are breaking our own mental stability trying to do so.

We've been told to climb the ladder, so we did. Those of us who haven't done this yet are busting our arse working harder and maybe even longer hours to do so. At the expense of our mental stability.

We've been told that it's normal to ask for permission to spend time with our kids, so that's what we do. Then we start calculating when we'll have that allotted time accrued back to do so again. Next year or months later.

We've been led to believe that taking some time for ourselves is called "recharging" so we can get back to the grind "with a fresh mind and/or clear vision" soon after.

We've been promised that a 9-6 or 8-5 or 8-4 is normal, and we're believing it.

We've been told that two days a week to ourselves is acceptable, and we squeeze household chores like laundry, errands, cutting the grass into these two days. We work around kid's sports, our own "down" time, and trying to make time for aging parents into these two days, and the evening before returning to work we're exhausted more than we are on worknights. Then we do it all again bright and early the following morning.

Before we know it, our kids aren't children anymore and want nothing to do with us. Our parents are frail and/or deceased. We're aging and hurting in places we never hurt before and can't do the things that make us happy as much anymore. Then suddenly the kids are out of the house, we're burying parents, and staring down the barrel of 60 years old hoping and praying that somehow retirement is good to us and we're wishing we had taken more time for ourselves and our families when we still had the chance. And we hope our kids somehow do things differently but are successful at the same time.


I'm going to say I agree, but you need to orient yourself a bit. If you like heavy philosophy, I'd suggest Rene Girard. He will tell you why all of this is true, how it works... then you might be able to come up with an approach to fix it.

quote:

What the frick are we doing? It doesn't have to be this way. Why have we fallen into this trap?


Because we are human, and at scale, driven by very primal desires, we will entrap ourselves. See the philosopher above.

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:30 pm to
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but we are living in the most privileged society of all time.


Are we?

If you measure prvilege as stuff and comfort, sure.


But we have lost quite a bit as a culture and a world in the process of getting the comfort and leisure.
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