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Pettifogger
Favorite team: | Atlanta Braves ![]() |
Location: | I don't really care, Margaret |
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Number of Posts: | 83933 |
Registered on: | 2/11/2012 |
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re: Israel is attacking Iran. Update: Iran to declare war on Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 11:29 pm
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I mean downtown tel aviv is getting hammered by ballistic missiles. Are you arguing it is working as anticipated
What on earth?
We’ve watched it successfully fend off massive rocket attacks for years with very minimal damage. Even now the hit rate is way less than 10%.
If Israel did to Tehran what Iran has attempted on Tel Aviv, there would be thousands dead.
re: What Happens if Iran Already has Nukes and conducts a Test Tonight?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 4:24 pm
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So your claiming this video posted in Tehran right now is fake? Some of you clowns love to look like retards. You do know whenever you can't dispute visual evidence and start to attack the Twitter account you already lost the argument right?
I have no idea whether it's real or not, and neither do you
The account you're posting has posted multiple fake things today, which you don't care about because you're a shill (a bizarre random one).
But I'm not making grand determinations about Tehran air defense based on a known iffy account with 4 clips, particularly when Israeli aircraft were over Tehran unmolested in daylight all day.
re: Israel is attacking Iran. Update: Iran to declare war on Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 4:18 pm
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And there's the mental gymnastics
Ok, walk me through it
You claim an ongoing genocide of a people group that is expanding in population, not declining. You make an appeal to an unreliable authority.
I mention the bias of said authority, you claim this is mental gymnastics.
We're back to your allegation of genocide, which has a definition, and which isn't met.
re: What Happens if Iran Already has Nukes and conducts a Test Tonight?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 4:13 pm
It's a pro Iranian account that has been caught posting false stuff multiple times today already
have some self-respect
have some self-respect
re: Israel is attacking Iran. Update: Iran to declare war on Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 4:08 pm
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humans rights organization as well as the UN
Notorious for their fair treatment of the Israeli-Palestinian question
re: What Happens if Iran Already has Nukes and conducts a Test Tonight?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 4:06 pm
Iran doesn't have control over the skies of Tehran, it's not doing shite with regard to the Strait for very long.
And Yemen :lol:
And Yemen :lol:
re: What Happens if Iran Already has Nukes and conducts a Test Tonight?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 4:05 pm
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I thought it was common knowledge that Iran would use a nuke on Israel the second it had one.
It wasn't because they wouldn't.
Everything Iran does is about holding on to the regime as long as possible and that would end immediately upon any catastrophic strike on Israel or the US, nuclear or otherwise.
re: What Happens if Iran Already has Nukes and conducts a Test Tonight?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 4:03 pm
The second video is probably edited and it's from October 2024
re: What Happens if Iran Already has Nukes and conducts a Test Tonight?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:56 pm
On one hand, sure, a successful test would freak out the western world in Israel in historic fashion and likely lead to to either mass outbreak of war or quick rethinking by the US/Israel on next moves.
But, on the other hand, if Iran had the capability for that and had a delivery system, I don't necessarily think they'd use it on Israel right now but I also doubt they'd spend 24 hours getting their arse handed to them (including the complete dismantling of their nuclear facilities) before serving the world notice of it.
But, on the other hand, if Iran had the capability for that and had a delivery system, I don't necessarily think they'd use it on Israel right now but I also doubt they'd spend 24 hours getting their arse handed to them (including the complete dismantling of their nuclear facilities) before serving the world notice of it.
re: At Booth BBQ in Oxford right now
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:45 pm
I really don't know what 30A sticker guy is attempting to brag about in this thread
re: Israel is attacking Iran. Update: Iran to declare war on Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:39 pm
Plus the US Open
Pretty sweet setup the simulation content creators have delivered for us on Father's Day weekend
Pretty sweet setup the simulation content creators have delivered for us on Father's Day weekend
re: The vast difference between Israel and Iran, anyone can plainly see
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:36 pm
I agree generally, but I don't find it that compelling in this instance.
Israel launched a massive preemptive strike on a country that is trying to gain leverage for its own offensive/defensive purposes with a large percentage of the world opposed to its regime.
Israel killed leadership and left the country, arguably, in organizational disarray. Objectively, I'm not sitting around going "oh well Iran should proportionally respond and only target military installations" when the nuclear program probably just got destroyed, leadership was killed and Israel is calling for regime change.
To be clear, I support Israel vs. the Iranian regime, but I just think these discussions of targeting and proportionality with Israel are often somewhat thin. For different reasons, the same is true with Hamas (Hamas is cowardly, but they also don't really have the ability to meaningfully pose a threat through targeted strikes - lobbing rockets is all they've got).
Israel launched a massive preemptive strike on a country that is trying to gain leverage for its own offensive/defensive purposes with a large percentage of the world opposed to its regime.
Israel killed leadership and left the country, arguably, in organizational disarray. Objectively, I'm not sitting around going "oh well Iran should proportionally respond and only target military installations" when the nuclear program probably just got destroyed, leadership was killed and Israel is calling for regime change.
To be clear, I support Israel vs. the Iranian regime, but I just think these discussions of targeting and proportionality with Israel are often somewhat thin. For different reasons, the same is true with Hamas (Hamas is cowardly, but they also don't really have the ability to meaningfully pose a threat through targeted strikes - lobbing rockets is all they've got).
re: Anyone caught up in the Cartel fight at the Cancun Airport on here?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:32 pm
Despite this, those ladies got 80% of the way through their flight before demanding a refund
re: Israel is attacking Iran. Update: Iran to declare war on Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:05 pm
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US is shooting down Iran's missiles.
Believe we did this during the last saga too
re: US forces participating in air cover over Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:03 pm
We did this last time
re: Israel is attacking Iran. Update: Iran to declare war on Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:01 pm
Israel: "how convenient, we were thinking of doing a test too, let's do it at your place"
re: What are the bare minimum tools for a home?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:00 pm
Y'all already make me feel bad because I pay people to work on my cars and handle landscaping
Now I'm supposed to do maintenance on plastic trash cans?
Now I'm supposed to do maintenance on plastic trash cans?
re: Nurse looking for roommate in Austin, TX
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 2:57 pm
This is going to be a new thing isn't it
"if you're not in the market...maybe you're in the market for something else...
link in bio"
"if you're not in the market...maybe you're in the market for something else...
link in bio"
re: How close do we think Iran really was to nukes?
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 12:33 pm
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If the IAEA us saying a month or 2, i believe them.
I don't trust the IAEA, but it's a piece of evidence for sure. And the WH has hinted that something in the tone of the Iranian delegation changed drastically recently and alarmed the WH/IC around the time of the IAEA stonewalling.
re: Israel is attacking Iran. Update: Iran to declare war on Israel
Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 12:25 pm
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The deal was to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons not to prevent them from funding proxies. Now that's all moot because they're not part of any deal and they're not coming to the table any time soon.
And the deal led us to ignore attacks on Americans because both administrations were obsessed with the idea of Obama's foreign policy legacy coming good.
It failed in all regards.
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