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I mean downtown tel aviv is getting hammered by ballistic missiles. Are you arguing it is working as anticipated


What on earth?

We’ve watched it successfully fend off massive rocket attacks for years with very minimal damage. Even now the hit rate is way less than 10%.

If Israel did to Tehran what Iran has attempted on Tel Aviv, there would be thousands dead.
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So your claiming this video posted in Tehran right now is fake? Some of you clowns love to look like retards. You do know whenever you can't dispute visual evidence and start to attack the Twitter account you already lost the argument right?



I have no idea whether it's real or not, and neither do you

The account you're posting has posted multiple fake things today, which you don't care about because you're a shill (a bizarre random one).

But I'm not making grand determinations about Tehran air defense based on a known iffy account with 4 clips, particularly when Israeli aircraft were over Tehran unmolested in daylight all day.
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And there's the mental gymnastics


Ok, walk me through it

You claim an ongoing genocide of a people group that is expanding in population, not declining. You make an appeal to an unreliable authority.

I mention the bias of said authority, you claim this is mental gymnastics.

We're back to your allegation of genocide, which has a definition, and which isn't met.
It's a pro Iranian account that has been caught posting false stuff multiple times today already

have some self-respect
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humans rights organization as well as the UN


Notorious for their fair treatment of the Israeli-Palestinian question
Iran doesn't have control over the skies of Tehran, it's not doing shite with regard to the Strait for very long.

And Yemen :lol:
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I thought it was common knowledge that Iran would use a nuke on Israel the second it had one.


It wasn't because they wouldn't.

Everything Iran does is about holding on to the regime as long as possible and that would end immediately upon any catastrophic strike on Israel or the US, nuclear or otherwise.
The second video is probably edited and it's from October 2024
On one hand, sure, a successful test would freak out the western world in Israel in historic fashion and likely lead to to either mass outbreak of war or quick rethinking by the US/Israel on next moves.

But, on the other hand, if Iran had the capability for that and had a delivery system, I don't necessarily think they'd use it on Israel right now but I also doubt they'd spend 24 hours getting their arse handed to them (including the complete dismantling of their nuclear facilities) before serving the world notice of it.

re: At Booth BBQ in Oxford right now

Posted by Pettifogger on 6/13/25 at 3:45 pm
I really don't know what 30A sticker guy is attempting to brag about in this thread

Plus the US Open

Pretty sweet setup the simulation content creators have delivered for us on Father's Day weekend
I agree generally, but I don't find it that compelling in this instance.

Israel launched a massive preemptive strike on a country that is trying to gain leverage for its own offensive/defensive purposes with a large percentage of the world opposed to its regime.

Israel killed leadership and left the country, arguably, in organizational disarray. Objectively, I'm not sitting around going "oh well Iran should proportionally respond and only target military installations" when the nuclear program probably just got destroyed, leadership was killed and Israel is calling for regime change.

To be clear, I support Israel vs. the Iranian regime, but I just think these discussions of targeting and proportionality with Israel are often somewhat thin. For different reasons, the same is true with Hamas (Hamas is cowardly, but they also don't really have the ability to meaningfully pose a threat through targeted strikes - lobbing rockets is all they've got).
Despite this, those ladies got 80% of the way through their flight before demanding a refund
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US is shooting down Iran's missiles.


Believe we did this during the last saga too
Israel: "how convenient, we were thinking of doing a test too, let's do it at your place"
Y'all already make me feel bad because I pay people to work on my cars and handle landscaping

Now I'm supposed to do maintenance on plastic trash cans?
This is going to be a new thing isn't it

"if you're not in the market...maybe you're in the market for something else...

link in bio"
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If the IAEA us saying a month or 2, i believe them.


I don't trust the IAEA, but it's a piece of evidence for sure. And the WH has hinted that something in the tone of the Iranian delegation changed drastically recently and alarmed the WH/IC around the time of the IAEA stonewalling.
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The deal was to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons not to prevent them from funding proxies. Now that's all moot because they're not part of any deal and they're not coming to the table any time soon.


And the deal led us to ignore attacks on Americans because both administrations were obsessed with the idea of Obama's foreign policy legacy coming good.

It failed in all regards.