LemmyLives

Most people against the death penalty (when older) are just aware of how corrupt the government machine is, in everything. In this case, government ineptitude will get the guy life in prison instead of the jab.

Konate. How much longer are we going to pretend?

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"Southern white trash thing".

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It's a trash thing. 15 year old Mexican girls do it for their quince. They're mostly Mexican and central American, but this is how "macho" dads create Toxicas and Tortas. So it isn't just trashy white people.

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At 40, I went to trade school to get "certified" in what I had already been doing for 20 years.

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Nobody I knew had the experience to tell me being an electrician ($4k to get journeyman, for the entire course, vs 4k for ONE MBA class) wasn't about being in an attic for the rest of your life, it was about learning enough to have other people in your trucks to be in attics. I'd have been making twice as much.

Find someone selling their business, get an SBA loan, don't be an a-hole, and profit. :cheers:

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flyover states like Oklahoma

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Oklahoma is coming hard after people that live in Houston. Multiple billboards in IAH targeting baws that have to live in Katy and West to drive into the Energy Corridor and Downtown.

Stop buying air chilled chicken, plant based milks, and every sliding glove for Braxxxtyn.

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How much will the state collect if the DCs don’t get built?

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Well, multiple states agree to forgo sales and use taxes, so ...? Are they paying sales taxes on the concrete, the wiring, the plumbing that needs to be installed even during the initial build? They won't be paying sales taxes on coffee they buy for the people that actually show up day to day.

As I've said repeatedly (ironic username, btw,) you're going to have part time contractors doing electrical, HVAC, etc., and a *couple* of people per thousand physical servers to do rack and stack and component replacement. Everything else will be done remotely, from at least out of state, and likely out of the country. You can't scream "foreigners can't work with regulated data, not true" because they don't need access to data to do maintenance from Hyderabad (or, DFW for JPMC employees that aren't citizens.)

I'll quote this again:

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From a cost-benefit point of view, the three states that have measured their data center ROIs have found they lose 52 to 91 cents on the dollar. In Virginia, the sales and use tax exemption for data centers — which is uncapped by project or company — consumed 81.3% of the state’s entire economic development incentives budget in FY 2024 and that share grew substantially in FY2025.

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That's three states that accurately and transparently report data. So it's a massive loss when they get built.

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And now everybody is looking to the government to make them feel better!

It is a huge problem.....people becoming dependent!

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Thank FDR and LBJ for starting this. If the left wants to talk about pointless wars, let's start with the war on poverty.

It appears to be passive loss, but it can depend on the state and locality. Combine those awful losses with the water and power impact (cost) for non data center users, and it's nearly no use to the populace to "lure" the data centers into their locality. Once a data center is built and "filled" there are not thousands of direct jobs associated with it, even if the data center is the size of Manhattan.

This is Enron level shite out of Illinois:

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Alarmingly,
its 2020 version of that report said the state lost only $10.4 million, but the first iteration of the FY 2023 report put the cost at $465.3 million,an extremely steep loss-trend curve of more than 4,300%. An updated version of that FY 2023 report, without explanation, omits the annual revenue-loss estimate

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ETA: The full report.

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out of control financially

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Wives and the male fascination with boats, hunting, OF and gambling probably describes 95% of use cases.

Microsoft Money Sunset Edition (free) was always my jam until it was killed right before I got married. TBH, unless people in OP's position are just ignorant, they already know where the money is going, they just have their heads in the sand.

Shoooocking.

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In a new report, "Data Center Tax Abatements: Why States and Localities Must Disclose These Soaring Revenue Losses," it names 14 states that are failing to disclose their tax shortfall due to server farms, and claims scores of local authorities are doing the same.

Only three states – Washington State, Texas, and Virginia – properly disclose these losses in their Annual Comprehensive Financial Reports (ACFRs). Instead, many states report the losses in Tax Expenditure Reports (TERs).

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Three states are losing $1 billion or more per year, the report finds. Georgia stands at $2.5 billion, Virginia at $1.94 billion, and Texas at $1 billion.

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Why isn't Louisiana listed? Probably because it doesn't report the losses anywhere.

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Louisiana claims it cannot estimate data center revenue losses despite a history of deal-specific disclosure for its state-controlled
Industrial Tax Exemption Program and its Quality Jobs and Enterprise Zone programs.8

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From a cost-benefit point of view, the three states that have measured their data center ROIs have found they lose 52 to 91 cents on the dollar.[9] In Virginia, the sales and use tax exemption for data centers — which is uncapped by project or company — consumed 81.3% of the state’s entire economic development incentives budget in FY 2024[10]and that share grew substantially in FY2025

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