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re: University of California system to drop SAT, ACT scores from admissions officially
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:14 pm to AUFANATL
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:14 pm to AUFANATL
There’s so much cheating in Asia. I wonder if that’s part of it.
Social profile always mattered. But you also had to be smart.
I think we’re looking at an era where social profile is the only thing that matters. Your race, your class, passing the woke test - that’s it.
University will probably still be important, as a gatekeeper for jobs and politics, but it’s going to be a joke academically.
Social profile always mattered. But you also had to be smart.
I think we’re looking at an era where social profile is the only thing that matters. Your race, your class, passing the woke test - that’s it.
University will probably still be important, as a gatekeeper for jobs and politics, but it’s going to be a joke academically.
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:23 pm to Tigers0891
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Years ago Brown University started letting in regionally local inner city kids with good attendance and a 3.5 GPA
It’s their school, and they can do what they want, but I think they’re destroying these institutions.
And in that way, they are actually betraying their obligation to the men, and the students, who made these places great - and that is sad.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I wonder what the stats show on how predictive ACT and SAT scores are for success in college? I assume they must have some value because colleges and universities have been using them so long. On the other hand, among the people I know, lots of kids with high ACT's have washed out and people with lower ACTs have succeeded.
I will say that, from what I can see, ACT is tons better than the Leap tests Louisiana uses.
I will say that, from what I can see, ACT is tons better than the Leap tests Louisiana uses.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Schools want more control over the racial composition of their incoming classes.
Removing a massive objective barrier to entry allows them to have more control over that process.
Removing a massive objective barrier to entry allows them to have more control over that process.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Will the schools be grading on a curve, and dropping your three lowest test scores? This could pump up some privileged GPA’s.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
0 to 50 C
51 to 65 B
66 to 100 A
51 to 65 B
66 to 100 A
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:52 pm to AcetylCoA
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Haha black people live in you guy’s minds rent free. California is only 5% black, ACT and SAT being dropped wouldn’t be because they cared about black kids.
Lol @ you actually believing that drivel. You think it’s just a coincidence this is happening NOW?
This is exactly why dbags like you will never get ahead because you aren’t willing to put in work.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:56 pm to Tigerbait357
You don’t have to produce the SAT score but you damn sure will be checking the race box
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The reality is standardized tests are poor predictors of future success. They are used as shorthand for colleges to make a difficult decision easy.
A few years ago when I was doing my turn on the hiring committee of my law firm we hired a legal analytics company that basically does money ball for law firms. The first thing we learned is the LSAT and elite law schools have basically zero to do with job performance. In the 70 year history of my firm only 3 attorneys had been hired that did not go to a T14 and those three were horizontal hires. Since hiring them and using their advice we have hired overall a better class of lawyers, many from non T14s and many who did not test well.
Throwing out standardized testing is not an issue as long as the admissions departments are willing to do the harder work of identifying quality applicants without the shortcut provided by the SAT and ACT.
I think it is nuts that the better law schools weight the LSAT at roughly 70%. So a 3 1/2 hour test counts more than 4 years of grades in undergrad.
What the U of C system is doing actually makes a lot of sense, how it is implemented is potentially a different story.
A few years ago when I was doing my turn on the hiring committee of my law firm we hired a legal analytics company that basically does money ball for law firms. The first thing we learned is the LSAT and elite law schools have basically zero to do with job performance. In the 70 year history of my firm only 3 attorneys had been hired that did not go to a T14 and those three were horizontal hires. Since hiring them and using their advice we have hired overall a better class of lawyers, many from non T14s and many who did not test well.
Throwing out standardized testing is not an issue as long as the admissions departments are willing to do the harder work of identifying quality applicants without the shortcut provided by the SAT and ACT.
I think it is nuts that the better law schools weight the LSAT at roughly 70%. So a 3 1/2 hour test counts more than 4 years of grades in undergrad.
What the U of C system is doing actually makes a lot of sense, how it is implemented is potentially a different story.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Next step is going to be federal government giving a shite load of student loans and then say there is a problem for so many people having student loans and want to forgive them. Like the Libtards already want to do 
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:44 pm to 14&Counting
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You don’t have to produce the SAT score but you damn sure will be checking the race box
This chick would be canceled from college
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:45 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This won't backfire at all.
Yeah, I’m sure China and Russia are doing this shite. We’re so fricked.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yeah, just frick the Asians and gifted students, right?
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If only Lori Laughlin would have waited.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I felt the same way but in the last few months I’ve been helping 2 young adults applying to California universities for Fall 2021 and I can promise you the application process is much much much more stringent and thorough than an ACT or SAT standerized test score
This is so unfair to the high school kids who are of a more academic/scholarly bent.
Cal Berkeley received over 100k applications from some of the brightest students on the planet, I can assure you that the incoming freshman class won’t be filled with Kids that should be at River Parish CC
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So the only qualification now is race and completely biased academic scores based on racial equity theory?
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:17 pm to SuperSaint
There has to be a minimum qualifications cutoff. I’m not saying an ACT of 33, but maybe 28ish. Orherwise those 100k applications are going to go to 300k
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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because you think certain minority groups are too unintelligent to score well on them is blatant racism.
Or its a realization they don't have the money to pay for test tutors. Poor people, whether black, white, red or purple are at a disadvantage these days when it comes to the SAT/Act.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:23 pm to Lima Whiskey
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It’s just Exeter
The name is Phillips Exeter Academy. I realize people call it Exeter, but given this is a site for a Louisiana based university, I bet a lot of people may not know what just “Exeter” is referring to.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:29 pm to Methuselah
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I wonder what the stats show on how predictive ACT and SAT scores are for success in college? I assume they must have some value because colleges and universities have been using them so long
High school GPA has actually been found to be a better predictor of college graduation rate. I’m not sure graduation rate is really the best measure for college success in though.
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