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re: University of California system to drop SAT, ACT scores from admissions officially
Posted on 5/15/21 at 9:39 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 5/15/21 at 9:39 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Y’all are overreacting to this one I think. All this will accomplish is the lessening of the degree from any CAL system college and companies will look elsewhere when hiring employees until they realize it’s costing the school in the long run and then it will return on a few years. The sad thing is the idiots who approve this will stay in power
I don't think it will lessen the value of the degrees at all. But what's left out of these discussions is that even in massive schools like the UC systems, the admissions departments know the schools their applicants come from very well.
The GPAs and the course work from a random school in Bakersfield versus Harvard-Westlake or Atherton will always be weighed accordingly, standardized test or not.
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 9:46 am to FlatTownDawgTiger
quote:they won’t get into Berkeley
There are valedictorians graduating from public high schools in Nola with a 20 on the ACT. Now how do you imagine that kid would do at Cal Berkeley?
Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Dropping standardized test scores from admissions because you think certain minority groups are too unintelligent to score well on them is blatant racism.
How can anyone defend this?
This is so unfair to the high school kids who are of a more academic/scholarly bent.
Just the tip of the iceberg... saw a thread on here yesterday that California secondary education is considering dropping accelerated math placement. In other words you could not take algebra in middle school and you could only take clases at the assigned grade level...
Even the libtards got upset with this.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:45 am to TigerIron
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It will also have the side effect of allowing the powerful/ connected to get their kids in, even if those kids are dumb as rocks.
I don’t think the meritocracy worked, but it is the end of the meritocracy in the US.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:47 am to GetmorewithLes
It will push the White and Asian students into private schools. You’ll get a boom cycle as schools are opened and expanded to meet demand.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:50 am to Lima Whiskey
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:08 pm to TigerIron
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It had holes and flaws maybe, but I don't think it's a coinidence that the height of the meritocracy coincided with the height of American preeminence in science and engineering, and dominance as a world economic and military power. The interstates, the space program, the internet itself, all more or less products of that time.
That was certainly a great era.
But when did the meritocracy begin? The 60s? You had the GI Bill generation after WW2, but you didn’t see systematic changes at universities until the 60s, and the 70s. And that’s when society began to embrace equality of opportunity.
The federal government was dominated and led by the New England elite, up through the 60s. It was people like Coolidge, it was the Roosevelts, the Tafts, the Forbes clan. These were very hard nosed people - with a tough, if not brutal attitude on life.
And they were replaced by people like, Joe Biden. To me, that’s where the rot starts.
Institutions take on the qualities of the men who lead them. We open the door to the hen house, and we let the foxes in.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:15 pm to Obtuse1
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The youngest person I have ever hired is 20 and the vast majority of my hiring decision has been roughly 25 yo due to professional requirements.
Why do you have professional requirements? Perhaps you need to use a holistic approach
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:17 pm to mattfromnj
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I don't think it will lessen the value of the degrees at all. But what's left out of these discussions is that even in massive schools like the UC systems, the admissions departments know the schools their applicants come from very well.
I predict in the next decade we'll have college graduates that can't read or can't read above a 7th grade level. This is about unlimited money for colleges, nothing more.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
SAT and ACT are fricking scams. If you can apply yourself in High School and make good grades you will likely do well in college or life in general if you choose to go straight into the work force. Not everybody will end up making 500k a year. Life is a fricking grind for most of us.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 3:08 pm to Lima Whiskey
If you look at demographics of recent freshman classes at competitive, leftist colleges, you’ll see the white kids are being admitted at astonishingly low rates. The admissions boards are trying to save a certain number of spots for blacks and Hispanics, while letting Asians take half the white spots. This has recently been obvious at university of Texas and Princeton.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 3:43 pm to Gunny Hartman
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while letting Asians take half the white spots.
Chinese students?
What you're describing mirrors the makeup of the Democratic Party.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 3:45 pm
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