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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by supadave3
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:25 pm to
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Not a conspiracy theory in the least. Based on what we've seen, Putin is facing major health issues.


But this should stay out of this thread…
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:33 pm to
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But this should stay out of this thread…


I get where you are coming from but his health is germane and it isn't new speculation. Also, the thread is 10 weeks running so there will be thread creep but it overall has stayed on track once we got some help from the mods.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:34 pm to
Russian body count communication regarding how the eastern offensive is going.

Major to Colonel: We've lost 5,000 troops.

Colonel to General: We've lost 500 troops.

General to Military advisor: We've lost 50 troops.

Advisor to Putin: We've lost 5 troops.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:34 pm to
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So just as a personal note, I can't -- I can't say anymore what an honor and a privilege it is for us to be supporting these amazing worriers defending their nation.
Spell check strikes again.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:37 pm to
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But this should stay out of this thread…


No, it should not. Putin's health is probably one of the most germane things when it comes to this invasion.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:38 pm to
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Russian body count communication regarding how the eastern offensive is going. Major to Colonel: We've lost 5,000 troops. Colonel to General: We've lost 500 troops. General to Military advisor: We've lost 50 troops. Advisor to Putin: We've lost 5 troops.


Outside of jokes, what’s the real estimate of Russian casualties?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:12 pm to
Our 6th gen fighter probably already exists. Its insane to think that the F22 first flight was nearly a quarter century ago.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5785 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:34 am to
Ukraine is asking Biden admin for anti-ship missiles, drones and rocket launchers, says congressman

In addition, Crow said, Zelenskyy told the congressional delegation his government is asking for multiple-launch rocket systems, particularly the U.S.-made system known as HIMARS. With ranges of more than 100 kilometers, the rocket systems would be “decisive,” as they would enable the Ukrainian military to strike at Russian forces at a longer distance than artillery, a capability urgently needed for fighting in the flat, open terrain in the country’s east and south.

“They need things that can reach out 100-plus kilometers. Artillery can’t go that far. Artillery can go half that distance at best or a third of that. The rocket launches can reach much further and be devastating to enemy units,” Crow said.

Crow said U.S. artillery officers told him Ukrainian forces could be trained quickly in the rocket systems outside the country, with about two weeks of instruction.

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Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:44 am to
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“There was no command. And if the officers didn’t know what to do, what is the sergeant doing there?” another soldier was quoted saying.

He said “99 percent of the equipment” in another unit didn’t even work, but when the troops warned the senior in command that their vehicles didn’t work and their guns “did not fire,” he shrugged it off and said to just “go like that.”

In another case, troops complained of their commander “disappearing” every time fighting started. “He was afraid of his own men. He made himself a security team out of a few of the guys. The commander refused to come out and talk to his own guys and was saying that he’d be beaten,” one soldier said.

Eventually, “some guys from Spetsnaz [special forces]” really did beat him and left his “face all bloody,” he said.

Another soldier said one of his wounded comrades in Russian-occupied Donetsk was getting no medical care. “He says that the first day they bandaged him, but there’s still shrapnel inside him. He says his hand is very swollen, and nobody is doing anything, the doctors aren’t even coming to see him. He’s been there for five days, and the doctors are only asking him for money,” he said.

After hearing the soldiers paint a picture of such utter dysfunction, Bibilov asked the men directly if they believe Russia will lose the war.

One soldier spoke up: “Yes, we believe they will lose.”


Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:02 am to
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Trent Telenko is a great follow on Twitter. He talks a lot about logistics,communications and other things discussed here.
He links another great account, Kamil Galeev. Galeev explains why full mobilization would be a big mistake.
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The problem with the total mobilisation is that Russia has no capacity to do it properly. The USSR could, while Russia absolutely can't
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Soviet Union maintained a massive infrastructure in case of the world war and mass mobilisation. And yet, it was super costly and made little sense in the absence of such a war. Much of it declined in the 1990s and whatever remained was dismantled during the Serdyukov's reforms
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Russia has the capacity to draft the enormous number of recruits via a mass mobilisation. It has no capacity to train them, provide them with required equipment or with officers' leadership. Facilities to train the gargantuan number of soldiers and officers from recruits are closed. Extra officers in existing divisions who would lead those recruits into battle were fired. Many of cadre officers Russia still has are now in Ukraine and many are already KIA. Which means that a mass mobilisation would be a really dumb decision


Finally, he points out the similarities between Putin's situation now and the Tsar's situation in 1917.
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"The people" would have no chance to overthrow the Tsar unless the Tsar: 1. mobilised them 2. brought to the capital 3. trained and gave them guns 4. made sure they have an immediate self-interest in his overthrow, because otherwise they would be sent to WWI and massacred there.
So what did the Tsar do? He brought 460,000 half-trained soldiers from the rural areas of Russia into Moscow. They were armed and knew if they didn't do something they would be sent to the front (think Tannenburg). Just about this time Lenin arrives from Finland...

With leaders like Putin, don't think about what would be the logical decision. If we think about his history and his character, then we will realize that he will absolutely make this mistake.
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4911 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:19 am to
Belarusian President Lukashenko tells AP he didn't think #Russia's 'operation' in #Ukraine would 'drag on this way.'
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:32 am to
Ask and ye shall receive, HIMARS are in country as of today. Supposedly the 300 km range variety. All 155s have been delivered to the right places as well. Intercepts are depressing AF with atrocities described in detail and accompanying videos. Material Numbers of Russian equipment lost trending up. Decision on 100k figure will have to be made prior to May 7th, the sabotage campaign is being described as “terror attacks” with all gas and oil and munitions sites experiencing attendance issues prior to the events occurring lol
Posted by fool_on_the_hill
Member since Jan 2019
544 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:38 am to
so is the russian performance as bad as the Italians in greece during WWII
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 5:22 am to
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Outside of jokes, what’s the real estimate of Russian casualties?
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:19 am to
These figures are surprisingly accurate from what I’ve heard, of course there is empirical data and supposition attached to it but Russian losses are also being reported back to the Kremlin and FSB GRU are also keeping track, I have been told that some folks on Ukraines side are privy to these reports and again as I’ve said Wagner Group casualties are not being reported and you may add an additional 3-4000 to these numbers, missing presumed killed is the only point of disagreement evidently and considering the numbers of RU surrendered vs missing these are a reliable baseline. RU is still doing an incredibly poor job retrieving their dead. Russias mechanical fail rate is actually higher than earlier than in March which is astounding to me and mine. They are pegging it around 30% now versus 25% at the beginning. One thing about the intercepts that is vaguely? encouraging is that the RU soldiers who are committing the worst of this stuff are getting fragged but also it seems to be done with a these are my last days on earth and I’m going to succumb to my worst depraved impulses. I don’t pretend as a Christian to understand this but I’m not a Russian soldier either.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 6:43 am
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:23 am to
I mean Putin looks a little shook. That should not change tactics or strategies at all though. You plan for everything even Putin dying and a better leader taking over and continuing the war. Plan for the worst and execute for the best.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28911 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:31 am to
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No, it should not. Putin's health is probably one of the most germane things when it comes to this invasion.

Absolutely agree, but I am skeptical that we have accurate information about the medical condition and treatment of the Russian leader. So this part of the discussion is primarily speculation.

I’m still cheering for the anesthesiologist to do his job, for the good of us all.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4694 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:43 am to
Didn't read it right
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 8:12 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:55 am to
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Our 6th gen fighter probably already exists. Its insane to think that the F22 first flight was nearly a quarter century ago.



not to mention initial work on the F22 started in 81 and really is based off of mid to late 80s tech other than the operation systems which have been updates. The first flight was 24 years ago now as you mentioned. Crazy to think of the tech we have now considering how fast tech is advancing now a days.

I beleive we absolutely have the 6th gen fighter designed and some prototypes but need tech to advance a little more before we bring it out which will prolly be closer to 2030.

whats funny is everyone complains about the cost of the F35 and the F22....yet the F14 cost much more when inflation is adjusted.

Not to mention our 4th gen fighters are so superior that we dont even need our 5th gens and the 4th gens are 1970s tech mainly.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4694 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:28 am to
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There are Unconfirmed reports from Russian State Media that a Shootout has occurred at the Kuchurgan Checkpoint on the Transnistria-Ukrainian Border between Transnistrian Forces and Unknown Forces, this is the same Checkpoint that Ukraine recently barricaded with Concrete Blocks.


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From the comments it appears that this is not true, but concerns that Russia will use it to escalate tensions.

ETA:
At least the local TV stations are reporting it as true which adds some support to what I said above

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#Moldova
Transnistrian TV channel TSV, citing a source in law enforcement agencies, reports that there is a shootout now near the Kuchurgan checkpoint on the border of with Ukraine.


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This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 9:01 am
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