re: ER Nurse observations.

I wonder if they realize their hospital leadership is likely part of the group (but not commenting) looking for possible helpful suggestions for conserving PPE, etc.

Which means they can see all the dumb comments from the nurses bashing their facility. Not very smart.

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That tells you who had it the day of the test. What about the next day, like the original guy said? It doesn't work.

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A town in northern Italy has zero cases after they did widespread testing and quarantined the people who came back positive. It does work, and it has shown to work.

Correlation not causation. And at any rate, who's going to make them appear over night and pay for them?

Thanks for the info. You had me until “do not touch your face”. Nail biting and booger picking are some hard habits to break.

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People will not be happy until everyone who wants a test gets a test. This is ominous to me, but it is our nature. As more are tested, more are going to be positive, and in numbers that will make the general public further shite themselves.

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I do disagree with this. Tests are important for a few reasons.

1) Everyone has accepted that the number of actual cases significantly exceeds the confirmed cases. BUT data is important. And saying testing isn't important is like saying we really don't need to know anything about the true nature of spreading and infections. While the most important number at this point is, how many people are being hospitalized. Without widespread testing, we don't have an accurate number to say x% of positive tests require hospitalization. This will significantly help the states and cities that haven't been hit hard yet. We test people for the flu even though we know the test won't change the fact that the patient needs to go home, hydrate, separate from others, and rest until you are symptom-free for 24 hours.

2) once someone has it, they know (minor symptoms or not) to stay the frick home.

3) once the positive testing person is free of symptoms, they can go about their business without worrying about catching it again. they re-infection rate is so small it isn't worth worrying about. There are a lot of people the think they had it, and it would be nice if they are right.

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4. Wash your hands, watch a little less news, don't touch your face, eat better, and or take vitamin C.

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This virus is not the killer you make it out to be, I don’t understand where you people get this info from. It kills .00000000001% (like 100 ppl worldwide) who aren’t in the @risk group, mostly because likely those people took 0 care of themselves when they got sick. The rest are in compromised health situations that would theoretically put them at risk of death from anything! If you just mind your hygiene (only good thing that’s come from this) like everyone should’ve been doing forever this is nothing more than the common flu. Who cares about asymptomatic carriers? Just don’t French kiss grandpa you’ll be fine.

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ChiTiger91, I think the risk is overstated, but you are way off on your 0..00000000001% number. Best case scenario the true case fatality rate is around 0.1% for the overall US population.

Do you know who is considered in the at risk group? ... Otherwise healthy 30-50 year overweight people, of which I am sure this board has many in that category. I know you don't give a flip about grandma or Type I diabetics or people with Crohn's disease or people recovering from cancer treatment, but its not all or nothing.

If we can effectively test all symptomatic patients and try to test family members and colleagues to find asymptomatic patients, then that would greatly reduce the R0 of the disease without shutting down the country. It is the cheapest/least invasive/least costly way of getting our country back to work.

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Let's just start testing everyone a la New York, and show that the mortality of this thing is shockingly low compared to the hysteria.

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Great idea. If we did this, we could quarantine those that are positive until they need hospitalization or die. Then we could do a two-week stay home order to let it burn through, just in case quarantines were not followed.

Once this is over, we could all return to work. Once everything is disinfected for safety. Wala. Pretty easy.

Well it’s just a few here, we also give them a sucker on the way out and a coin for the vending machine

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The economic fallout will be worse than this virus

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frickING THIS. WAKE UP PEOPLE

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3. Tests are just data points. Nothing can be done. Only the symptoms can be treated. Not the virus. So what difference does it make?

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Because there are shite ton of people that are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms and are still leaving the house to go to work, the grocery, etc. The more people we know that are positive, the easier it is to stop the spread. See South Korea