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re: JD Vance tweets his analysis
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:40 am to ned nederlander
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:40 am to ned nederlander
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Nobody fears JDeeznuts.
Smug shape shifters who can’t tell a joke and are covered in the stink of a wildly unpopular President aren’t winning anything.
shhh
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:40 am to Ingeniero
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I'm open to the idea that we should change enforcement—by focusing more on businesses that hire illegal labor, for instance. But anyone pushing amnesty is lying to you.
Well, no fricking shite, huh?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:41 am to rented mule
quote:Politicians say this all the time and never actually do it.
Well, no fricking shite, huh?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:41 am to Ingeniero
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In the next few months, there's going to be a lot of gaslighting. Expect to hear any number of establishment politicians say the solution to our woes is amnesty.
Oh and you get what you vote for.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:42 am to bodask42
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I agree with all 3 of these. And as a result, the Republican Party would be much better off going with DeSantis and actually stabilizing their operations, before moving forward at some later point with another ideologue.
I like Vance, and think he could be a terrific president one day, but Desantis’s competency and consistency is what is needed in 2028/2032.
I'm not sure this is my choice, but it's very sound reasoning.
I like Vance because I don't think there is another politician willing to put the realities out there and flirt with the unsayable truths in the way Vance is willing to do.
But is Rubio more likely to get elected and give you 60% of that? Is it American malpractice not to elect the best policy operator of a generation who happens to give you 75% of that?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:42 am to GamecockUltimate
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The guy who once called Trump "Hitler" and said he was a "never trump guy" before buddying up to him.....is a flip flopper...consider me shocked
It is funny to me that he is telling us why republicans lost when we have been telling them for a while now. "its oblivious to almost everyone"... nah dude you just werent listening. The people were pretty clear about their frustrations.
This is pretty much where I'm at. It's 1000000x easier to do a post-mortem after getting annihilated than it is to take measures to prevent annihilation.
You don't get any credit for identifying your own incompetence and laziness as the reason you got destroyed.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:43 am to Ingeniero
Too bad Twitter JD isn't a reflection of real life JD.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:43 am to NytroBud
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quote:Vance seems ready for the pivot That's his only chance but Trumps will frick him when he does.
Only BoarEd and a few other lap dogs give a shite what Trump has to say anymore.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:43 am to Ingeniero
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1) End the war 2) Focus on cost of living/inflation 3) Put America First 4) Change our relationship to Israel
JD already positioning himself in 2028 and he’s 100% right. This is the message republicans need to take going forward. Neocon endless wars and big business tax cuts don’t work.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:44 am to Ingeniero
What lost this is the single issues crowd.. low info voters who don’t look or care about tomorrow as long as they have today
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:44 am to BamaCoaster
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No arrests for Covid No save act No laptop or stolen election arrests Not codifying doge
Those things are important to the Trump base and may have resulted in lower turnout of likely Republican voters, but cost of living and the Iran War are clearly the primary issues. Anyone who things they aren’t is just kidding themself.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:45 am to JohnnyKilroy
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This is pretty much where I'm at. It's 1000000x easier to do a post-mortem after getting annihilated than it is to take measures to prevent annihilation.
You don't get any credit for identifying your own incompetence and laziness as the reason you got destroyed.
We're just going to keep skipping over the entire thing, yeah?
I don't blame people for not liking Vance the way I do, but this is just plugging your ears up and ignoring the obvious.
Vance told Trump that going to war with Iran would look like a repudiation of what Trump won on. That came to fruition, we took a bloodbath over it, and now Vance doesn't get credit for holding a consistent position over the entire period as everyone scrambles? What are we doing here, exactly?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:46 am to 1999
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vance and ron d already coming out against the war. that's the right direction. but too late.
I think JD was always against it but he couldn’t publicly go against the president as it isn’t his place as VP to do so
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:47 am to Ingeniero
it's always going to be tough for a VP to distance himself from a failed president but this is a good first step. Hope it's not too late...Vance was promising
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:48 am to Ingeniero
He’s not wrong. He’s what we thought Trump would be in his second term.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:48 am to BrohemAlem11
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it's always going to be tough for a VP to distance himself from a failed president but this is a good first step. Hope it's not too late...Vance was promising
I wonder if it’s possible that Vance doesn’t finish his term as VP. I can see him distancing himself and/or Trump going ballistic over this.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:50 am to REG861
The counterpoint is that I wonder if Trump blessed Vance doing this type of separation. I'm not sure that's in Trump's nature, and even if he did, I wouldn't expect Trump to hold himself to that long term.
It's probably more likely that Vance as political operator saw DeSantis making moves and felt compelled to pull the band aid off, but I think both are somewhat plausible.
It's probably more likely that Vance as political operator saw DeSantis making moves and felt compelled to pull the band aid off, but I think both are somewhat plausible.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:50 am to coolpapaboze
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Desantis is the most competent political chief executive of the last fifty years. He may be a wooden dork, but he is conservative, is not afraid to tackle difficult issues, and he gets shite done.
Which, sadly, wasn't good enough for the majority on here (and on the right) in 2024.
People on here wanted a slick talking carpetbagger instead of an actual conservative that gets shite done.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:51 am to Pettifogger
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Vance told Trump that going to war with Iran would look like a repudiation of what Trump won on.
Never heard that from Vance though. We heard that from media reports and whitehouse insiders.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:51 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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cost of living
There is no viable political solution to the money printing machine.
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