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Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:08 am to Ingeniero
Ol boy is sharpening his knife
It’s a race to see who can jam it into big orange’s back the fastest now
It’s a race to see who can jam it into big orange’s back the fastest now
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:08 am to Ingeniero
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Vance seems ready for the pivot
He was against it from the beginning. This is him basically saying, "I told you so."
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:09 am to Ingeniero
I think he would be wiser to cite the actual American people instead of "smart pollsters" but there is some level of humility in his post.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:09 am to PorkSammich
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Trump will destroy him if/when he tries to break away. JD is screwed.
Actually I disagree here. Normally yes, Trump would; however, I think Trump finally recognized his war cost us, and he understands that Vance needs to be seen as opposed to it. Vance is very shrewd, and he is and will continue to position himself against the war without appearing to be against Trump.
This statement was not made without Trump’s review and approval.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:10 am to NawlinsTiger9
Vance stood against Iran and got arrows from "the right" for the last 8 months in return.
I'm not sure what anyone else wants him to do. He voiced opposition, and he was right. He was given a garbage assignment and he did the best he could. He stood by Trump as much as possible while pretty much every other contingent in Trump's orbit, the GOPe, neocons, etc. all got their knives out for Vance.
I'm not sure what anyone else wants him to do. He voiced opposition, and he was right. He was given a garbage assignment and he did the best he could. He stood by Trump as much as possible while pretty much every other contingent in Trump's orbit, the GOPe, neocons, etc. all got their knives out for Vance.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:10 am to BamaCoaster
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No arrests for Covid No save act No laptop or stolen election arrests Not codifying doge Etc
Republicans had power and did nothing with it.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:10 am to PorkSammich
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Trump will destroy him if/when he tries to break away. JD is screwed.
I don't know about that. 2024 was a long time ago and Trump is a lame duck.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:11 am to Ingeniero
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Vance seems ready for the pivot
Many reported that, behind the scenes, Vance opposed the war. He has some 'splainin to do. If he was so opposed to the war, as the only member of the executive branch that Trump can't fire, he could have done more to stop it.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:11 am to Ingeniero
Man, its such a vast contrast to hear someone like Vance break things down and respectably and concisely give his thoughts compared to Trump's incessant blathering, pointing fingers, deflecting blame, avoiding responsibility, pumping himself up etc.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:12 am to BamaGradinTn
Everyone knew the shite hit the fan when we bombed Iran
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:12 am to Ingeniero
They still don’t truly understand it. Backlash was for Thune and do nothing Republican Congress. The war and gas prices were some of the issue but not the whole story.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:12 am to The_Duke
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He's already begun to distance himself from Trump. That's how I read this.
I have said before that today would be the first day of the 2028 presidential campaign, and that Vance would have to start to distance himself from Trump.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:13 am to BamaGradinTn
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Many reported that, behind the scenes, Vance opposed the war. He has some 'splainin to do. If he was so opposed to the war, as the only member of the executive branch that Trump can't fire, he could have done more to stop it.
How does he have explaining to do? He stood against it, and was absolutely vilified for it. It's not some secret. The Israel lobby has been out for blood against Vance in the open for months for precisely this reason.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:14 am to Ingeniero
Deboar and stdtiger loading up one sentence insults with high uses of profanity anything Vance related for not worshipping at their altar of Trump
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:16 am to skullhawk
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He was against it from the beginning. This is him basically saying, "I told you so."
Instead of having to now say "I told you so", he should have reminded Trump way back when that he couldn't fire him and that he was going to call a press conference and very publicly break from Trump if he started dropping bombs.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:16 am to 1999
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vance and ron d already coming out against the war. that's the right direction. but too late.
Yep .
Both trying desperately, like damsels in distress, to distance themselves from the cucked, impotent Trump in hopes of salvaging their asses in time for 2028..... Might work for Rhonda Santis, no way will it work for JD ("Eyeliner") Vance .
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:16 am to Ingeniero
His post is entirely reasonable.
He has my support for 2028 unless DeSantis makes a hard push in which case I’ll hear them both out.
He has my support for 2028 unless DeSantis makes a hard push in which case I’ll hear them both out.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:16 am to Ingeniero
Time to step away from Trump seems to be the answer for 2028
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:16 am to Funky Tide 8
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Man, its such a vast contrast to hear someone like Vance break things down and respectably and concisely give his thoughts compared to Trump's incessant blathering, pointing fingers, deflecting blame, avoiding responsibility, pumping himself up etc.
Vance gets it. He would be a great President. Which means he has no shot in hell.
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