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Then you should be well versed in the gospel. Let’s hear your understanding of it.


You’re asking me to preach the Gospel to you so you can… ? Point out that the Pope is bad?
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Thank you for the oppertunity to educate YOU on communism. Communism is a system that controls both the means of production and distribution of goods and services


Even using your definition, how did the pope advocate for this?

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The pope's policies promote more rape and murder, more fraud, and less Christianity.


The pope is promoting the Gospel, not policies.

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But I would also argue that starting a pissing match with Trump was a dumb move by Leo.


As if we don’t have actual problems in this country that our POTUS could devote this bandwidth too.
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But I sense that what's happening now the Catholic social justice being peddled by clerics (including Pope Leo) is nothing more than communism disguised as social justice.


Specifically what is communistic about Pope Leo’s messaging?

You don’t seem to know what communism is.
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It's obvious they don't care about the victims of crime,


How is this obvious?
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Name his violent criminal convictions.

Name his non-violent criminal convictions.

You wont.


Maybe you can provide a comprehensive list of convictions you believe warrant life imprisonment and which ones you believe should be acceptable.

You're the one with the conflicting stance, not me.
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Grow up and become a productive citizen. Life altogether isnt that difficult.


Do you believe that we should incarcerate all criminals for life? That seems to be the only logical conclusion to your stance of not providing any rehabilitative services to people who get convicted of crimes. Once someone has been convicted, they have demonstrated that they didn't "grow up and become a productive citizen." Our recidivism rates prove that detaining people doesn't magically equip them with the skills necessary to "grow up and become a productive citizen."

In your model, the President of the United States would be incarcerated until he dies.

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The formula isn't that hard. It's never been.


You're using a lot of emotional and subjective language. The fact that so many people are incarcerated shows that it's not hard to go to prison, either.

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So what we need? A large campus complete with therapists, psychologists, social workers, massage therapists, feet washers, and nuns with rulers?


Institutionalizing and dehumanizing offenders has proven not to be an effective rehabilitative strategy. We could adopt something like what was done at the Norfolk Prison Colony in the 30s, 40s and 50s.

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There is an epidemic of low expectations in those day and age. "Well they can't help it", "well they are just victims of the system", "well they have to steal to survive", "well they need their candy and soda with EBT, it's a nice treat after such hardship", "they are too dumb to get an ID. It's not their fault"... etc.
YOU are the one with the low expectation. You are convinced that everyone who has been convicted of a crime is a total piece of shite that deserves to be executed or locked in a cage until death.

Except for one ultra-wealthy reality TV star convict who somehow couldn't afford an adequate defense attorney.

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Did he not get his trial? What's your issue?


I have no issues with his convictions. You talk about convicts like they are garbage despite the fact that you come here to defend a criminal convict every day. I guess you make exceptions for criminals you like?

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We put felons to work for minimum wage and make every dime go to the victim to pay off a fair restitution.

Inmates work for less than minimum wage. Not every felony has a victim, anyway. You don't know very much at all about the system you're opining about.
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So we throw money at something they already have had plenty of chances to do on their own.


Like what, specifically?

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Just like we do welfare. Cradle to grave handouts doesn't work either.


Louisiana taxpayers spend more to fund the Department of Corrections than food stamps.

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And tell me. How exactly do we "rehabilitate" a multiple time felon gang member?

I am not suggesting there is a one-size-fits-all model to rehabilitation.

Most people with felony convictions are not gang members.

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Annnd your strawman enters

Asking someone a question isn't a strawman. :lol: You have a problem with certain criminals. I'm wondering which crimes you find acceptable. If you don't want to address your acceptance of the criminal you throw your support behind every day, just state that plainly instead of calling my question a straw man.

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Using the most investigated president of all time by a weaponized DOJ and by other prosecutors that ran for office on "I'm going to prosecute him" isn't the best use of your argument is it?


This actually proves my argument. We have a corrupt penal system. You want to make excuses for mega-wealthy and politically connected celebrities who are convicted of crimes while arguing that every other criminal should either be executed or put away for life.



re: Universities are a joke

Posted by 4cubbies on 4/15/26 at 12:51 pm to
The fact that you learned this today from a tweet is much more worrisome than someone going to college.

His backers are shady, like Peter Thiel.

At least that's the talking point.
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So?


So I'm asking someone to explain what he said. I didn't say prison should be comfortable. He said it is designed for comfort. I want to know what he means by that.

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This whole "prison is about rehabilitation". Is the same thinking of "we need to give billions of dollars because need to give people a hand up with welfare and housing" with no strings.

We already know that detaining people without rehabilitating them just leads to to more crime. I am proposing we stop throwing money at what we know doesn't work and try a different approach.

Can you explain why we should stick to what we know leads to high levels of recidivism instead of trying a different approach, which is attempting to rehabilitate criminals?

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Prisoners are essentially volunteers. They knew the end game. They decided they didn't care
Is this how you feel about the president of the United States and his crimes?

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Reduced and/or disparate sentencing for violent crimes compared to non-violent crimes. Murderers being set free with what amounts to a slap on the wrist.

I need you to provide examples of this.

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For those who are in jail, prisons are designed with programs and entertainments focused on relative comfort rather than discomfort, and rehabilitation rather than punishment.

What specifically is comfortable about prison? Prison is traumatic and dangerous. You think getting a sandwich for lunch means that it’s designed for comfort? There isn’t even air conditioning. How are you arguing that’s designed for comfort? Prison is designed for control.

You’re making baseless claims based on how you feel prison is and how you feel sentencing is.
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hy is there so much Hate here on Tigerdroppings for everything Catholic and everything Pope? This hate is making you unable to reason


Same can be said about hated for everything that isn’t arbitrarily called conservative.
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Thanks for your reply!


Welcome!

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Noticed from my first few scrolls that it's nothing but hate spout.. is that the norm on this sub forum or no?


Yes. That’s the norm. Lots of thoughtless tribalism but there are a handful of thoughtful posters who engage in some interesting discussions. I like to think I’m one of them.

Lots of “the left is evil” and “Libs are the devil” type threads and posts. Lots of Trump idolatry (which I still don’t understand). Lots of random personal attacks if someone shares a different perspective.

It’s a lot like middle school.
Thanks, President Biden. We knew inflation was just in our heads this whole time.
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7 Our Fathers and 13 Hail Marys later,


Dang, your priest is a hard arse. My last penance was to thank God for the blessings in my life.

fun fact: you don't need to do your penance for absolution to stick.
Just another total piece of shite with no regard for anyone but himself. Those poor kids are going to hear about how awful their dad is at school.