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re: House passes legislation 308 - 117 to make Daylight Saving Time permanent
Posted on 7/14/26 at 10:31 pm to meansonny
Posted on 7/14/26 at 10:31 pm to meansonny
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They all seem to get by even though your mind is exploding by the concepts.
I’m just fine conceptualizing it.
Merely pointing out that we know how this would end and that the people pushing it don’t really have any idea what they’re talking about.
Posted on 7/14/26 at 10:52 pm to Tigers0918
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Then they can just work 8AM - 4:30/5PM and it is the exact same thing. If your job is dependent on the sun, then those jobs should just shift hours in the winter to be aligned with the sun
Or you can just rent light plants. We are 80 miles are so from MT time zone line and have to deal with the problem for months. Looked at moving start times, workers were against it by a large majority.
I just hope they finally do it. Hell, meet in the middle and shift it 30 mins. Just pick something and stick with it, I hate the changes.
Posted on 7/14/26 at 10:55 pm to Indefatigable
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I’m just fine conceptualizing it.
Merely pointing out that we know how this would end and that the people pushing it don’t really have any idea what they’re talking about.
It is funny that you presume every state is the same.
I'd put money that the 19 states who have passed the law dont change it.
They are probably states with a lot of outdoors activities.
Posted on 7/14/26 at 11:39 pm to Indefatigable
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I’m a staunch federalist. Agreeing on which time we use doesn’t need to be handled 50+ different ways. Especially when this is basically an internet fad.
True. Trains and planes depend on these, hence why they were created in the first place. Before time zones, we used the sun before it caused train wrecks.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 2:05 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Good, it's a pain in the arse to get home at 5pm and be out of daylight, some of us work for a living
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 2:06 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 2:31 am to Bigdawgb
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I don't think it's rocket science, just an unnecessary PITA. I don't personally want to think about time on top of everything else going on in life.
Right now, it's not a big deal because there isn't much variability (only a few time zones).
That changes rapidly when every state takes their own stance. I agree this should be a federal level policy
Correct. This entire time thing is not really about where the extra available sunlight should be, morning or evening. It's not really about kids at bus stops. BTW, every semester I see the bus stop across the street start with 5-10 kids at the semester start, two months later only about 3 kids ride the bus and almost always boys.
Anyway, it's about commerce and business. Just in this thread the seeds of chaos have been innocently cast by people not seeing the chaos. Talk now of every state doing their own time. Shifting the clocks 30 minutes to satisfy standard and dls proponents. Altering work and school hours, the madness continues.
I kinda wish the people talking this nonsense can live a while with these proposed changes across the different states. They can live the chaos, reinvent the wheel, and end up exactly where we are now. Business, Commerce, and consistency gentlepeople that's what our government managed time is about.
Imagine if every state had their own rules and signage for using our interstate highway system?
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 2:33 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 4:04 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
This is dumb. Does anyone actually want this?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:01 am to uggabugga
I bet the Senate doesn’t even bring it for a vote
Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:24 am to meansonny
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I dont wear a watch.
The phone gets the time right even when I travel.
Ease, speed, and knowledge
Nonsense reply...
There may be more goings on and people happenings in the US than just meansonny and his phone traveling around. Maybe.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:29 am to stout
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Oh then hell...we tried something 40 years ago and no way has society changed at all in that time so we might as well not try it again
the United States briefly tried year-round Daylight Saving Time during the 1970s energy crisis.
Here’s what happened:
* In late 1973, the Arab oil embargo caused fuel shortages and soaring energy prices.
* Congress passed the Emergency Daylight Saving Time Energy Conservation Act.
* Beginning on January 6, 1974, the U.S. stayed on Daylight Saving Time all winter instead of switching back to Standard Time.
The idea was that having an extra hour of daylight in the evening would reduce electricity use and save energy.
However, it quickly became unpopular.
The biggest problem was very dark winter mornings. In many parts of the country:
* Children were going to school before sunrise.
* There were reports of increased traffic concerns involving schoolchildren.
* Many people disliked not seeing daylight until 8:00–9:00 a.m., especially in northern states.
Public opinion changed rapidly. Initial support had been around 75–80%, but after the first winter it dropped dramatically.
As a result:
* The U.S. returned to Standard Time on October 27, 1974.
* Another experiment with extended Daylight Saving Time took place in 1975, but it ended early as well.
* After that, the country returned to the familiar pattern of switching between Standard Time in winter and Daylight Saving Time in summer.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 6:02 am to back9Tiger
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I'm sure the senate will frick this up.
Hope so. In the south, the construction season can last all winter. Dont want my guys standing around in the dark waiting to work.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:46 am to TigerAllNightLong
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winter. Dont want my guys standing around in the dark waiting to work.
Could you not adjust the start of their work day to correlate with time change?
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:49 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I read that some in Ag/farm states were worried about crops and sun. Also some said kids shouldn't be going to school in the dark. 

Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:53 am to Allthatfades
Well they are cowards.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:53 am to uggabugga
Does this have any chance to pass the senate
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:09 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Rush hour in the Dark in Major Metro Areas. Surely that wont go bad.

Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:13 am to frankthetank
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Sunrise won't be until after 8 am in the winter in Knoxville, TN. With latest sunrise at 8:45.
So.
Freaking boomers man
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:24 am to Snoop Dawg
I run in the morning window, trails on the weekend. So give me the 4am-5am.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:36 am to 1999
8 am sunrise in winter would be a hunters dream. Plenty of time to sleep off that whiskey and make it back into the woods before daylight
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:42 am to bayoudude
For those that are fussing about keeping with daylight savings time about the children waiting for buses in the dark, you do realize that any state can make an exception and stay on standard time just like Hawaii and Arizona. Do you not so you do not have to follow it if your state does not want to? So for all those complaining in the Northeast and the upper Midwest during winter months that it gets and stays dark late in the morning then just get those dates. Call your representatives to stay on standard time for us in the South daylight saving Time. Year-round is perfectly okay
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