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Indefatigable
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re: JD Vance invokes Huey Long in a speech to Ohio Steel Mill workers
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 9:12 pm to FlyingTigerBo
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Would you say he is most responsible for Louisiana today?
It would be difficult to ID another person as impactful, but I’m no Louisiana historian
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re: JD Vance invokes Huey Long in a speech to Ohio Steel Mill workers
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 8:34 pm to FlyingTigerBo
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What are your thoughts on Huey Long and what he did for Louisiana?
He both saved and ruined it.
re: For Those Seeking Reinstatement To The Site...
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 8:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Is OMLandshark banned? If so, let's reinstate him. He adds a lot to the MTV board
His various personalities and their escalating tiers of hysteria on the most mundane topics are worth any possible risk of having him post here.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 8:03 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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What's your guess for the reason? Even if someone DID get in Trump’s ear, I still can't imagine a justification.
Honestly my best guess would be that he heard someone ranting about why the Ford was laid up for so long and latched on to her well-known cat problems. Those problems, of course, having been fixed for JFK and beyond.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 7:58 pm to Tvilletiger
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Well dude freaking answer? Why can we not shift the crew in and out? Obviously not when there is risk of flights in and out being shot down. Legit question here
Not without docking, no. At least in any way that’s feasible in a combat area. There’s 4-5k people aboard, and the largest craft that can land on a carrier with any range holds like 40 guys max. And that assumes you have a fully trained carrier crew just hanging around ready.
Besides, the main point I’ve made a few times ITT already is that the mechanical and logistical fatigue is a bigger concern anyway. A brand new crew wouldn’t be able to apparate Harry Potter style onto this carrier and just continue indefinitely. Even if the ship were invincible, there’s 90 aircraft aboard that are eventually going to need something more serious or voluminous than can be supplied infinitely at sea.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 6:08 pm to Timeoday
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heard the Lincoln is being replaced by the George Washington. Imagine that. The ship named after the man who sent the Brits packing is in the theater where the Brits influence was recently destroyed. Symbolism. Iran said they would pay for the assassination of POTUS Trump yet POTUS Trump had a CVN group in theater named after a POTUS who was assassinated. That's what I voted for.
Sigh. Troll effort was too weak. If you want to keep up the charade of being unreasonable, you must try harder than this
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 6:05 pm to Tvilletiger
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It’s an aircraft carrier. It’s like a base on water. Is there not a simple way to have sailors rotate in and out and never move the boat? Seems like that could happen with the right logistics of course. Have them constantly rotating every few months?
Holy shite. I take back my comment to the other poster about the most ignorant comment I’ve ever seen.
It wasn’t you, RFK, it was this guy and this comment :lol:
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 6:00 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Maintenance on systems and aircraft doesn't stop while deployed.
No fricking shite.
After a certain point, do airframe and other critical component maintenance items not exhaust what backup stores/on-ship capabilities have available?
The issue here was that we couldn’t just constantly resupply Lincoln with unrep. That’s a target. You can’t bring everything from shore by helicopter or osprey/COBD.
Yes, everything is stressed to its max at that level for that long with limited resupply. It’s honestly insane that so many seem to want to argue otherwise for no reason other than the media whining about crew accommodations—meaning Trump people apparently must reflexively say there’s nothing at all wrong and everything is perfectly fine.
Why can’t everyone just acknowledge simple reality that a carrier needs to be rotated out after 9 months on station in combat conditions? Why is that controversial? It has never been before in the history of the US navy.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 5:30 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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It’s funny you brought up some of the names of the future Ford class ships that will be built. I looked at that list 2-3 months back or so and saw the Big E. Wasn’t the Yorktown on that list also? Seems like I remember another famous ships name from yesteryear on that list also. I wanna say it was the Yorktown but I remember about enough to live dangerously these days lol.
I seem to remember Yorktown was on the initial list and bumped to a potential later hull (since we’re building 11 of them) in favor of Doris Miller.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 5:05 pm to beachdude
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I do not mean to disparage these guys and I know flight operations
So can being in GQ for large amounts of time playing duck hunt and evasive maneuvers with whatever Iran has been lobbing at ships. Being on high alert for months is mental more than physical fatigue.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 5:01 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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Yeah it’s sad to see these ships that were involved in some of the most historic battles ever fought end up as scrap or at the bottom of the ocean serving as an artificial reef.
HMS Warspite is number two on this list after CV6
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:59 pm to BBONDS25
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Self-proclaimed arbiter. You’re trying to be Rex. I knew Rex. You’re no Rex.
Rex was almost always wrong.
I’m not wrong here. Trump is. But he also doesn’t know anything about it and just says things he hears from random people. He is wrong, the navy thinks he’s wrong, the builders think he’s wrong, Congress thinks he’s wrong.
There is no benefit to steam over EMALS. Not with our ships power systems and configurations. None at all.
Imagine resetting designs for a ship that’s about to be built, and compounding construction delays by years because you want to go back to old technology for no demonstrable reason :lol:
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:54 pm to BBONDS25
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Good Lord.
On the catapault? Absolutely ignore the order because he won’t be in office when it’s installed or matters.
Trump is unequivocally wrong in the issue.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:52 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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And by the way I’m actually really glad that the Navy is bringing back the name Enterprise. I lost an extremely close friend about a year ago that went on his first float aboard CVN-65. A quick little cool story. He sent me this patch that you could sow on a jacket or something. It had a picture of a carrier on it with like this swirling symbol you see in a lot of nuclear plants. Don’t know what that symbol is called. It had the carrier name Enterprise and the CVN-65. On the bottom was written mobile Chernobyl lol. He told me when he got back of that cruise that the Navy had taken all them up and wouldn’t allow them to be distributed anymore. I asked why and he said that the talk was that the Navy was afraid to let a nuclear powered aircraft carrier be compared to Chernobyl lol. I don’t know if that was true or not. He said that was the talk anyway.
That’s a good story :cheers: The boxes were ugly I’ll always have my heart for those monstrosities on her and Long Beach :lol:
And I’m with you on bringing Big E back. It confounds me that we’re practically the only nation on Earth that made a concerted effort to preserve noteworthy and/or exemplary naval vessels as museums at scale……but we scrapped possibly the most accomplished and decorated ship in the history of the US Navy. CV-6 was done wrong.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:39 pm to DeBoar
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So you have no personal experiences and typing away based upon media reports?
Personal experience with what?
No, I have never been Chief of Naval Operations or the Secretary of the Navy.
You seem to be the only person going on media reports. I’m going off common sense and my knowledge of the Navy, the carrier fleet, and how it operates and rotates—knowledge from the navy itself and publicly available information it publishes on ships and their movements, which I monitor.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:34 pm to DeBoar
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Oh yeah? Let’s hear about your experiences
Huh?
I’m just telling you that the last week of drama from the crew isn’t why she’s being rotated. At least not in any meaningful way. The ship itself and its aircraft need to be relieved. We can’t resupply as we would like in confined waters near Iran. It creates targets.
Besides, Washington was already on the way when this story broke.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:31 pm to DeBoar
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It’s a fricking ship. There’s a reason why people platform shower shoes together. The most laughable part is that this is a big ship with whiners on it while the rest of the group on smaller older ships been hasn’t had complaints broadcasted. It’s very dramatic there are a few that have it “so rough” they send pics out or call to complain to their families. Wonder how they’d fair in the middle of a desert on a farp or fob with absolutely nothing and limited coms burning their own shite and eating UGREs.
Once again, despite what the media is telling you and what you are choosing to focus on, crew happiness is NOT why 9 month deployments without any dockside maintenance should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
It’s like people believe that the story about the crew popped up so the Navy suddenly reacted and sent the GW to cover. That’s not how anything works. GW was going to have to relieve her regardless in the short term until the Roosevelt finishes work ups in San Diego.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:30 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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You would think by the time they get around to finally building the Doris Miller all the bugs in the new system would be just about worked out. They should be close to it anyway you would think.
Plus, Trump won’t be in office by the time this would truly have to be decided, so it won’t become an issue.
The EM problems have been fixed for years on Ford (see prior comment about first in class)
Cancelling everything that doesn’t work immediately is not smart, especially years after the issues were smoothed out.
There are zero advantages going back to steam.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:22 pm to vl100butch
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How much of what went on is a leadership problem? Where was the NCO leadership that should have been all over keeping places like the bathrooms shown in photos clean. Where was the fleet level leadership to ensure that fresh food made it out to the ship? Then some sort of port call should have been made with a repair ship available to fix the largest problems.
They’d basically have to go to Crete to do that, and that wasn’t practical.
The real screw up here was getting into defensive and denial mode instead of just simply saying “We acknowledge and are greatful for Lincoln’s excellent service and the strain that has placed on the personnel in her strike group. It was extended but her and her crew performed admirably and professionally. She’s being rotated home”
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:20 pm to ninthward
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Huh? China's POS Navy won't make it out of port. Do some fricking real research. China cant handle one carrier battle group if we bring full firepower. We'd nuke those pos diesel boats once they fired up in port.
If there’s conflict in the SCS, our major concern is land-based hypersonic and conventional missiles and drone swarms. Not the PLAN.
re: Trump says USS Lincoln’s Extended Deployment “Not Nearly Long Enough”
Posted by Indefatigable on 8/21/26 at 4:18 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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That carrier isn’t that old and she is already going down for 2 years if the article I read is correct.
Yep BUT I will give one small grace here—she’s first of her class so it’s not all that unheard of to make major adjustments after a couple deployments.
Here’s to hoping they have made appropriate adjustments for JFK and Enterprise. Also here’s to hoping the USN tells Trump to frick off with his order to go back to steam from EMALS catapults for Doris Miller.
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