re: Uh oh EV bros: What about the estimates?

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Like I said, my gripe is the disingenuousness of EV people saying that limitations of range and charging times compared to ICE is really just a mental problem with consumers. If the EV people would admit that EV does some things better and ICE does some things better I would pipe down on that angle of discussion. But most of them can’t from what I have read, for whatever reason

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The issue is that the one thing ICE does better, reliably and seamlessly drive extremely long distance, is not something the average person needs frequently, if ever. And of the people who do need to do it, this “problem” is easily solved by having a non-EV vehicle in the family as well.

If you’re a single car family who lives on the gulf coast, an EV might not be for you. For everyone else, the “but how will you evacuate from a hurricane once a decade?!?” argument does come off as a bit histrionic and… disingenuous.

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I would buy one today if they had 500 mile range and/or gas/diesel charging capability.

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Who drives 500 miles without stopping to stretch their legs?

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I'm looking at a used ford lightning rn so lol at you

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Can you drop those to a sport truck level like the old lightning or the Harley f-150s?

Tesla Model S driver as of 2025. I wonder what took me so long. Kids are all out of the house. Wife drives an SUV with non-plug in mild hybrid ICE, and if we are not pulling the boat or something else, we are always traveling in the Model S. Tons of room and FSD on road trips is life changing.

Was just chatting with my FIL about how we just have to plan in the charging route and time, once you accept the trade off that there is not a charging station every few miles like there is a gas station, it's not a big deal.

Will be getting FSD Tesla once my beater dies.

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during hurricane season is a prime way to save precious battery power, as you sit in contraflow for hours.

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When was the last time there was contraflow? Im sure the interstates were littered with EVs

Also, what keeps you from stopping and recharging? Time standing still isn't costing you much if you are moving less than 10 miles and hour.

People are going to stop owning vehicles, and a million FSD cars will be around for uber on steroids. Houses will start having more living space and less garage space

edit: not everybody and not every car. But I can see that for city folks that need to get aroudn town mostly, and maybe even long distance travel where you just jump into the next vehicle once the battery is depleted. People living out on big land, farm equipment etc will remain for a long time

I have a drawer full of iPhones with old batteries and outdated iOS where it’s was cheaper to buy a new one.
Not so easy or cost effective with an iCar.

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This is a huge part of it for me. Power outages, locating charging ports, grid issues, storms, etc. make me hesitant to get one.

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I dont see owning an asset that depreciates to a negative number. The secondary market is going to become a big problem. What do you do with a 10-15 year old EV. Nobody is going to want to spend the money on a new battery set for a car this old. The market may get these cars through two battery life cycles but I dont see three. At that point the car is useless and will need to be disposed.