re: Uh oh EV bros: What about the estimates?

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I just subscribed again to FSD and it is behaving better than when I cancelled a few months ago, FSD 14 Lite likely coming this month. The HW4 with 14+ is pretty incredible so hoping it’s close. Either way, it’s an awesome car so much tech packed into it. Getting around town is a joy, it’s so quick and nimble.

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I "drove" mine this past week to Gatlingburg. On the way up to Gatlinburg, I "filled up" at Supercharger stations, and filled to 85 % and 90 % when I stopped. Once I reached 80 % (which recharges fairly quickly), it added a considerable amount of time to my "drive." I learned.

On the way home, I filled up to 80 %. Very quick. Shaved off quite a bit of time, and made it back 11.5 hours. Approximately 730 miles. Left it in "hurry" mode the entire trip. At one point with FSD, I let the car drive me for 330 miles without me touching the wheel or brakes.

Quite an enjoyable trip on the way home once I "learned" that charging up to 80 % is really the sweet spot.

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weagle1999

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Dork bro

My 8 yo Model 3 is still in the 90% range for the battery. To be fair, I haven't driven it 100k, I have 65k on it. I still enjoy the shite out of that car, the OTA updates are cool as hell. I don't even have it set up for FSD as I don't trust that shite yet, but the car is so fast and easy to drive I will own it a long time. And yes, if it costs $10k by the time the battery needs replacing I may go for it. You act like people don't keep cars for 20+ years. Some of us like our old faithfuls. And I am a big fan of ICE cars, this is no hippy dippy green shite for me. The Tesla is the best thing for me on an island with solar on my roof. Change tires and a 12v battery every few years and you're good. No gas, no oil, no fluids other than windshield.

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capitalism

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The government pumping money into the EV market is the opposite.

Another thing that people aren’t factoring in for replacement batteries is a pretty quickly developing salvage market. Storage is worth a couple hundred bucks per kWh. 66% capacity model 3 long range is worth several thousand dollars. We’re going to see the salvage value start to materialize and installed in utility scale storage. But the market place needs to stabilize and some real guidance come out because it’s uncharted territory and the current admin just won’t engage.

I follow Tesla closely. I plan to own an FSD Tesla as soon as I feel like dealing with buying a new car.

I already have three vehicles, and one of them is a full-size pick up with a huge bed, which I will keep.

I also have an SUV which I really like. But I’ll probably get rid of it because I am alone and don’t need four vehicles or I could keep it for guests to drive but probably not.

I also have a car with a lot of muscle that is really fun to drive and I intend to put a manual transmission in it because I want a car that I can fully drive because I really like to drive.

But I also want a car that can drive itself anywhere I want to go so I will have an FSD Tesla when the time comes.

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The government pumping money into the EV market is the opposite.

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This is true but sometimes a capitalist market needs a socialist/regulatory inoculum to keep it healthy and/or for the good of the country. An excellent recent example is MP Materials.

EVs became a political wedge issue that ultimately destroyed the US demand. It ensured people made up their minds, often with incorrect or old information, even though they didn't have the faintest idea of what the actual product was like or what it was like to live with.

I banged on for years here saying this approach was going to cede the US competitive advantage in EVs and open the door for China to dominate the long-term car market. A market they were having a huge problem penetrating. Turning EVs into a wedge issue opened the door for the Chinese and left most Western car manufacturers holding a sack of shite. People on one side of the wedge rejoiced while ignoring the huge win they had given to China.

The only reason why BYD isn't eating Tesla's lunch in the US is restrictions in trade.

Whether people like it or not, governmental pushing of EVs was the correct thing to do for the country. EVs will see widespread adoption in the US; it is a sure bet. The issue is now US, European, and to an extent Japanese manufacturers will get pants globally by Chinese companies like BYD, all for the huge benefit of a few years where each side of the political chasm can point and laugh at the other side.

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But I don’t want to spend 20 minutes sitting at a charging station in a parking lot And that is assuming that all of the chargers are open and I don’t have fo wait on someone else.

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Go in the store
Go for a walk
Watch YouTube
Post on TD
Read a book
Rub one out

2018, 2022,2026 are kind of difficult for me. Really could have used Black and Red for 2 of those colors

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What limitation does Weight of the vehicle cause? I've never once in the 2 years thought about weight as an issue.

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People who drive trucks and SUVs that are heavier than EV passenger cars like to clutch their pearls about EV passenger cars weighing more than ICE passenger cars. After a couple of decades of watching 5’2” women driving empty Suburbans, it’s fricking hilarious to me