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re: Uh oh EV bros: What about the estimates?
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:26 pm to GetmorewithLes
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:26 pm to GetmorewithLes
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What do you do with a 10-15 year old EV. Nobody is going to want to spend the money on a new battery set for a car this old.
I know the Nissan Leaf and some other batteries with cooling issues experienced this.
Is it common to burn through a battery in 10 years?
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Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:29 pm to GetmorewithLes
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I let my diesel Silverado High Country do that too...
You've never used FSD 14.3.4
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:31 pm to weagle1999
I'm a white left leaning male. I used to have a Tesla but then Elon bought X and allowed MAGA to have free speech. We were upside down in our note but gave it away. My kids now have to go to public school with those blacks. I love blacks but would rather my kids not be around them. Although we do get pictures of our kids with random blacks to post on Instagram. We love black people.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:32 pm to fightin tigers
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Is it common to burn through a battery in 10 years?
8-10 was the estimate last I looked a few yrs ago. This is one of the R&D hot buttons in EV business, battery life and cost of change/swap.
If I own a 20 yr old car and it still runs I have some routine costs associated with keeping it running. If i have a 10-20 yr old EV at some point it will cease to charge and then it will be prohibitive to fix it or cheaper to get another one.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:39 pm to GetmorewithLes
My S is 7 years old. 130k miles. Very little battery degradation. Where in the world are you getting this 8 to 10 number? I should easily get 250k+ miles
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:43 pm to fightin tigers
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For a hurricane you just need about 75 miles of charge to get you on one side or the other of the damage path. It is certainly an anxiety situation though.
You and everyone else needs that same 75 miles. I guess if you had a place to stay it wouldn’t be a problem. But I had friends who drove to Houston during an evacuation only to find no rooms available.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:43 pm to GetmorewithLes
Until battery tech improves to the comparable lifespan/depreciation/replace cost of an ICE, I’m not buying an EV to be able to work or watch brain rot while not driving.
That said, it’s just matter of time and capitalism makes it so.
That said, it’s just matter of time and capitalism makes it so.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:43 pm to fightin tigers
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For a hurricane you just need about 75 miles of charge to get you on one side or the other of the damage path. It is certainly an anxiety situation though.
You and everyone else needs that same 75 miles. I guess if you had a place to stay it wouldn’t be a problem. But I had friends who drove to Houston during an evacuation only to find no rooms available.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:44 pm to B747Tiger
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Who drives 500 miles without stopping to stretch their legs?
I don’t think anyone does. Who conveyed that?
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:48 pm to TheOcean
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My S is 7 years old. 130k miles. Very little battery degradation. Where in the world are you getting this 8 to 10 number? I should easily get 250k+ miles
Looking online my numbers are probably obsolete as CoPilot says:
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Most modern EV batteries last 8–15 years or 100,000–300,000 miles, with many retaining over 70–80% capacity beyond a decade of use.
Typical Lifespan
EV batteries are generally designed to last 10–15 years under normal use, with real-world data showing many packs still retain 80% of their original capacity after 10–12 years
driveauthority.com
driveauthority.com
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. In moderate climates, lithium-ion batteries can last 15–20 years before reaching 70–80% of their initial capacity
recharged.com
recharged.com
. Mileage-wise, most modern EVs are engineered for 150,000–300,000 miles, depending on battery chemistry, cooling systems, and driving habits
So now we get to the replacement cost (also CoPilot):
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Cost of a New Tesla Model S Battery
For a Tesla Model S outside the manufacturer’s warranty, a full battery replacement typically costs about $13,000–$18,000 for an uncomplicated job, with more complex cases reaching $20,000+ Find My Electric. This range covers both the battery pack and labor, and can vary depending on the year, trim, and battery size.
So to my point, nobody is putting that kind of money into a 15yo car. So when batteries go car is worthless and useless...
Posted on 7/11/26 at 7:54 pm to weagle1999
I drive 500 miles a week for commute so I've looked at one for gas savings and car wear/tear
Most of the EVs are so shitty - either weird looking or all these dumb features that are bugs, not features
Even Tesla with their self drive - I just hate the way they look, handle, and their interiors are cheap as hell
Drove a Macan EV as a loaner last week and loved it. Amazingly fast and nimble with ~300 mile range. Might make me reconsider, although it's way more expensive than a Tesla.
Most of the EVs are so shitty - either weird looking or all these dumb features that are bugs, not features
Even Tesla with their self drive - I just hate the way they look, handle, and their interiors are cheap as hell
Drove a Macan EV as a loaner last week and loved it. Amazingly fast and nimble with ~300 mile range. Might make me reconsider, although it's way more expensive than a Tesla.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:06 pm to weagle1999
I was pretty anti EV. Got the wife a Tesla. It’s fricking awesome.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:14 pm to KosmoCramer
It’s still 40k minimum for a sedan.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:14 pm to Joshjrn
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In the next decade plus, it wouldn’t surprise me to see a lot of households gravitating towards having one EV for local driving and one hybrid for interstate driving.
My wife bought a Mazada Plug in hybrid. The best of both worlds. It has between 25-30 miles of ev range and that's plenty to get her to and from her work. She just filled up at 1/2 tank for the first time since April.
She plugs into 120v at home and it charges overnight.
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 7/11/26 at 8:38 pm to weagle1999
I didn’t want and EV until recently. After taking a 4 hour trip in my brother’s model X and watching the FSD work flawlessly, my next vehicle will be something with that capability, so probably a Tesla.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 9:15 pm to weagle1999
Bought an EV as a third vehicle last year. 2022 Tesla M3. It’s fun as shite to drive. We use it basically every day, charging is not a big deal, mostly plugged into 120v outlet by the garage.
I just subscribed again to FSD and it is behaving better than when I cancelled a few months ago, FSD 14 Lite likely coming this month. The HW4 with 14+ is pretty incredible so hoping it’s close. Either way, it’s an awesome car so much tech packed into it. Getting around town is a joy, it’s so quick and nimble.
I just subscribed again to FSD and it is behaving better than when I cancelled a few months ago, FSD 14 Lite likely coming this month. The HW4 with 14+ is pretty incredible so hoping it’s close. Either way, it’s an awesome car so much tech packed into it. Getting around town is a joy, it’s so quick and nimble.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 9:27 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
quote:Towing drops you range significantly. Add to that if you are heading to a camp or hunting area while towing something, it better not be over 75 miles away. There are no charging opportunities in the sticks.
if we are not pulling the boat or something else
Posted on 7/11/26 at 9:44 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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Tesla Model S driver as of 2025. I wonder what took me so long. Kids are all out of the house. Wife drives an SUV with non-plug in mild hybrid ICE, and if we are not pulling the boat or something else, we are always traveling in the Model S. Tons of room and FSD on road trips is life changing. Was just chatting with my FIL about how we just have to plan in the charging route and time, once you accept the trade off that there is not a charging station every few miles like there is a gas station, it's not a big deal.
I’ll give you my anecdote. I drove my Tesla to Destin last time and my truck this time. Wound up stressing more in the truck about gas than I ever did for charging. Got too comfortable and wound up with less than a gallon left. Wife was in the Tesla and I just plugged it in while we were there, she left with 100%, they stopped once for 30 mins and got back in about the same time I did.
To your point, it’s a mindset shift. The thing is, we all have a phone and are accustomed to keeping them charged. If you are the guy that lets his phone die, don’t get an EV. If you have a routine, it’s not a big deal. But the idea is redundancy, having both in the family is a great option these days. And I want to be clear, I don’t think any EV other than potentially something more expensive is worth considering over a Tesla.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 10:10 pm to weagle1999
Pride month is over baw take your ghey eV shite elsewhere
Posted on 7/11/26 at 10:58 pm to metallica81788
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Even Tesla with their self drive - I just hate the way they look
Aside from the S Plaid, I agree. And I own a Model 3.
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I just hate the way they ... handle, and their interiors are cheap as hell
It's the best riding vehicle I have ever owned, and that includes my 2025 Ram 1500 Tungsten with air suspension -- and I've also owned Acura and Lexus.
The interiors are "different." Not traditional by which many people are used to. I don't find them "cheaply" made.
I bought mine for the technology. Tesla, in my opinion, has superior technology. I've "driven" just over 11,000 miles on mine -- and 85 % of the time, the car drives me. I'm never in a hurry anymore, and driving is actually a very relaxing activity when I am in my vehicle.
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 11:00 pm
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