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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98267 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Andrew Desiderio
@AndrewDesiderio
U.S. Capitol Police alert just now: “The USCP is tracking an aircraft that poses a probable threat to the Capitol Complex.”

Immediate evacuations ordered


Turned out to be the US Army Golden Knights parachuting into the Nats game.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40180 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:29 pm to
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I'm more concerned about their older ICBMs. Russia might develop some pretty high tech and advance new missiles but they do not have the resources of the time to build a lot of them. However, they have lots of older missiles which will eat up NATO's missile defenses fast. If Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces are on par with the rest of their military, I am not sure how many reliable nukes they have operational.


I don’t think we will get that lucky. Even if a nuke misses its target it still counts.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9905 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:51 pm to
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Yes they are getting Gripens from Sweden. Ukraine just has to assemble them in their home country like every other Swedish export.


Found those instructions.



Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:57 pm to
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quote: Andrew Desiderio @AndrewDesiderio U.S. Capitol Police alert just now: “The USCP is tracking an aircraft that poses a probable threat to the Capitol Complex.” Immediate evacuations ordered

Turned out to be the US Army Golden Knights parachuting into the Nats game.


I want really bad to comment how inept this is, but I simply don’t think we’re that inept after 9/11. I think they’re stoking fear.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22415 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:16 pm to
The new Ukrainian government disbanded/outlawed them after Yanukovych was forced out or removed. They were Russians from Crimea mostly that were used by Yanukovych during the Maidan. The ones remaining in Crimea before they were outlawed went over to the Russian side when Russia invaded Crimea.Yanukovych also used them as snipers during Maidan. They shot many people down in the streets.

They were big time thugs.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49019 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

U.S. Capitol Police alert just now: “The USCP is tracking an aircraft that poses a probable threat to the Capitol Complex.”

Immediate evacuations ordered



quote:

Turned out to be the US Army Golden Knights parachuting into the Nats game.



How incompetent are we?
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:11 pm to
Is this “war” still going on? Cliffs??
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:34 pm to
Well to be fair, I would rather the Capitol police recognize a possible threat due to poor communication versus not assume something they don’t know about isn’t a threat.
Posted by BritLSUfan
Member since Jan 2012
662 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 5:40 am to
Key Takeaways (source ISW - LINK to ISW Full Report for 20-April)

- Russia’s offensive in eastern Ukraine secured minor gains in the last 24 hours, taking parts of the key frontline towns of Rubizhne and Popasna.

- Ukrainian forces reported the presence of small numbers of Syrian or Libyan mercenaries fighting in Popasna (eastern Ukraine), likely individual recruits fighting under the umbrella of the Wagner Group rather than larger units.

- Russian forces made incremental advances in Mariupol and continued to set conditions to declare victory in the city by –at the latest – May 9.

- Russian forces made minor advances around Izyum but have not secured any major breakthroughs.




From the BBC - LINK to BBC

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his military to cancel plans to storm the Azovstal plant in the besieged Ukrainian port city of Mariupol... blockade it instead.



Source CNN
The Ukrainian Air Force has added about 20 operational aircraft to its fleet because of an influx of spare parts, a senior US defense official said. Without specifying which country provided the parts, the official said the US and other countries worked "to get them the parts they need to get them in the air."



Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3708 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:18 am to
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his military to cancel plans to storm the Azovstal plant in the besieged Ukrainian port city of Mariupol... blockade it instead.


That seems weird. It's not like that haven't already had a ton of losses and can't afford more. It just seems odd
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15048 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:38 am to
Lithuanian campaign - call Russia and convince them to stop the war!

LINK

Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12864 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 6:44 am to
Going to take a lot of steel to rebuild all the armor they lost.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51336 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:04 am to
quote:

quote:
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his military to cancel plans to storm the Azovstal plant in the besieged Ukrainian port city of Mariupol... blockade it instead.


That seems weird. It's not like that haven't already had a ton of losses and can't afford more. It just seems odd


Those civilians and soldiers trapped are basically hostages now. They can be used as leverage in a possible prisoner exchange.

However, it is impossible to believe Russia is a good faith actor in any negotiation. And with what happened in Bucha, there is no motivation for those trapped Ukrainians to surrender.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36123 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:10 am to
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his military to cancel plans to storm the Azovstal plant in the besieged Ukrainian port city of Mariupol... blockade it instead.


Impossible. We were told by the Russian propaganda team here that they were going to drown them all. This is obviously fake news.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3708 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:12 am to
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#Ukraine intends to launch a strike on the #Crimean bridge which #Russia uses as the main logistical route for military deliveries.

"If there is an opportunity to do so, we will definitely do it," said secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov.


LINK
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2559 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:33 am to
Statement on $800 Million in Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine
April 21, 2022

Capabilities in this package include:

72 155mm Howitzers and 144,000 artillery rounds;
72 Tactical Vehicles to tow 155mm Howitzers;
Over 121 Phoenix Ghost Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems; and
Field equipment and spare parts.

This commitment, together with the 18 155mm howitzers announced on April 13, provides enough artillery systems to equip five battalions.

DoD LINK
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65835 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:35 am to
quote:

quote:

#Ukraine intends to launch a strike on the #Crimean bridge which #Russia uses as the main logistical route for military deliveries. "If there is an opportunity to do so, we will definitely do it," said secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov.

File this under “Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear”.

Not that Ukraine wouldn’t target the bridge but it’s a free opportunity to insert worry and make Russia at least pause to consider (if not actually) committing assets to defend the bridge.

It’s what the Ukrainians should do in this situation.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:08 am to
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72 155mm Howitzers and 144,000 artillery rounds;
72 Tactical Vehicles to tow 155mm Howitzers;
Over 121 Phoenix Ghost Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems; and


That will help.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:10 am to
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@JackDetsch
NEW: Ukraine has more tanks available in country than Russia, thanks to European deliveries of Soviet-era T-72 tanks: senior defense official

U.S. has NO tanks to give Ukraine because Ukrainian military is using Soviet-era equipment.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43374 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:20 am to
Ya, people were going on about why aren't we sending Abrams over.

Uh, do you know how long it takes to become a proficient crew in an Abrams?
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