Favorite team:Auburn 
Location:Back in Auburn
Biography:I hope to have my own radio show in the near future.
Interests:I love defense.
Occupation:Retired DC / Retired HC
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surprised to hear this. Reading plans and specs is most of what we use it for.


I should be more specific. The issue is reading PDFs that are scanned in. Not Pdfs I create from own data
Yeah I just experimented with about 10 Pdf pages. Could read parts but then seemed to make up the rest.

If the local models can't parse through pdfs, then what good are they?

What's the work around?

How else are you using ai in your office
We haven't been good in 7 years or so :lol:

We as fans have short memories
I'm trying chunks as well. Had a RAG knowledge base set that was throwing in stuff which was fake
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I can't share what we use it for, but for the life of me I can't find one decent model that can read large PDFs well at all.

Most just make up shite as it goes, I know generally it's breaking the file down and reading the internal data so page numbers basically are meaningless. But none of the frontier models can read them without making up shite.

Would be a massive time saver, but in reality it's a time sink because we can't trust any of them reading PDFs we have found.

Tried Claude, chatgpt, Gemini, and grok. Chatgpt might be the best... Hard to say. At best it's right about 85-90% of the time of the information it ingests. Which is exceptionally bad. We are looking at converting PDFs to something more ingestable, but that costs a lot of time and money the second the models change


This is my issue. My main thing is needing it to pull PDFs, read PDFs, and output data from said PDFs.

However, like you said, I have found it making up stuff.

Has anyone found a good model? This is an offline closed system.
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love how pissed off Golesh is with this win.


Agreed :lol:
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lol That's high noons talking to you.


You mean the peach tea surfsides
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We are fully there


We've been in the cellar for years but the light is finally shining through
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He got two feet in before the ball moved. I don’t understand.


No idea
Agreed. They need to have speakers. Plus people are too worried about filming instead of cheering
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As if anyone should be surprised by that

The leader of the party has gone completely off the rails


And no Republicans in Congress are doing shite
I welcome this if only to cause others to lower prices