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Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:25 am to cassopher
The reason I haven't pulled the trigger and bought a new car is the car buying process. I sometimes think it's worse than buying a home.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:10 am to cassopher
Helped my son work a deal on a Bronco last year, but we were desperate because his car died, he was starting a new job, and Broncos were scarce. Among other things, they added a pinstripe for a couple hundred bucks as part of some package and they were putting it on the next day. Told them we didn’t want a pinstripe. Got as far as telling them, “ I’ll pay you the extra $200 anyway, just DON’T PUT THE PINSTRIPE ON. We don’t want it!” They said the best they could do was to put it on then let him bring it back the next day to remove it. The idiocy is unreal.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:23 am to cassopher
It's a PITA dealing with a stealership. Took 5 hours of appraising the trade, test driving and especially haggling for a 2020 car this summer. Got what we wanted, but it was a waste of time.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 7:25 am
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:24 am to Bryno1960
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The reason I haven't pulled the trigger and bought a new car is the car buying process. I sometimes think it's worse than buying a home.
It’s absolutely worse. Buying a house is just research, leg work and paper work. Buying a car is that plus mind games with serpents.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:28 am to Macfly
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Took 5 hours of appraising the trade, test driving and especially haggling for a 2020 car this summer. Got what we wanted, but it was a waste of time.
They don't always have to be. I've purchased two over the phone and delivered to me.
Last local dealer just kept saying they'd give me a great price.
Found one within 100 miles that sent me my appraisal for my trade in with the final cost with TTL all filled in already including the trade in and no bulllshit.
They would deliver free as well.
Just deal around. Once you drive and find what you want starting emailing dealerships within 200 mile radius and ask who delivers.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:45 am to LoneStar23
quote:You completely missed the point.
2) you're financing because you don't have $60,000 to invest
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:45 am to Jmcc64
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tell them you don't care about the payment size; all you care about is the sales price. watch their brain slip a cog
I'm actually in internet sales at a dealership. I don't negotiate on payment because their payment expectations are usually more terrible than their price expectations. I tell the customer right up front, we will either have a deal or we won't. No pressure on me. I've been in the game long enough that no type of "buyer" flusters me.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 9:48 am
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:34 am to cassopher
One of the great thing about the internet is that it has made vehicle shopping much easier.
Recently I was in the market for a new truck. Found exactly what I wanted in the DFW area for about $5,000 less than what the local dealerships were offering. Reached out to a few local Baton Rouge dealerships that had exactly what I wanted as well and asked if they could even come close to the sale price I found in TX. The best they could do was knock $500 off their listed sale price.
So I started negotiating with this particular dealership in the DFW area. After some back and forth they were trying to sell me on all of the add-ons - truck bed liner, tinted windows, Environmental Protection, etc. I basically told them to go kick rocks.
Found another dealership in the DFW area with exactly what I wanted, they didn't try to play any of those games. We came to an agreement on a final sale price. I flew up there early one morning, purchased the vehicle, and drove it home to Baton Rouge. I figured it was worth one day of my time to save approximately $5,000 compared to buying locally.
So my advice would be to keep looking, there's more than one dealership that sells exactly what you're looking for
Recently I was in the market for a new truck. Found exactly what I wanted in the DFW area for about $5,000 less than what the local dealerships were offering. Reached out to a few local Baton Rouge dealerships that had exactly what I wanted as well and asked if they could even come close to the sale price I found in TX. The best they could do was knock $500 off their listed sale price.
So I started negotiating with this particular dealership in the DFW area. After some back and forth they were trying to sell me on all of the add-ons - truck bed liner, tinted windows, Environmental Protection, etc. I basically told them to go kick rocks.
Found another dealership in the DFW area with exactly what I wanted, they didn't try to play any of those games. We came to an agreement on a final sale price. I flew up there early one morning, purchased the vehicle, and drove it home to Baton Rouge. I figured it was worth one day of my time to save approximately $5,000 compared to buying locally.
So my advice would be to keep looking, there's more than one dealership that sells exactly what you're looking for
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:35 am to BRL79
The last two cars we purchased were easy. One we bought from a broker. Probably spent an hour on the deal. He had the car we wanted and we had been looking for a while and knew what was a decent price. I wrote him a check and that was it. He had been a GM at a dealership that was bought out and started a brokerage with another guy. He didn't have much inventory or overhead.
The other was a very slightly used truck, purchased from a dealership. The truck had been on their lot for 90 days and they were ready to get it off. Again, I had been looking at Tundras for quite a while and knew what was a decent price. It only had 6k miles on it and once I made sure it would fit in the garage, it was just a matter of signing documents and writing a check. There was no BS from the salesman or finance guy.
The finance guy did want to personally buy the Nissan truck I had. I was planning on driving it a little longer, but he offered me a little more than the book value and I sold it. Went back about six months later to check out a car for my daughter and he recognized me...told me the truck developed several issues after he bought it -- none of which I knew ahead of time and he had his mechanics look it over. I found some humor in that. Don't think he did.
The other was a very slightly used truck, purchased from a dealership. The truck had been on their lot for 90 days and they were ready to get it off. Again, I had been looking at Tundras for quite a while and knew what was a decent price. It only had 6k miles on it and once I made sure it would fit in the garage, it was just a matter of signing documents and writing a check. There was no BS from the salesman or finance guy.
The finance guy did want to personally buy the Nissan truck I had. I was planning on driving it a little longer, but he offered me a little more than the book value and I sold it. Went back about six months later to check out a car for my daughter and he recognized me...told me the truck developed several issues after he bought it -- none of which I knew ahead of time and he had his mechanics look it over. I found some humor in that. Don't think he did.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:58 am to SpotCheckBilly
Ascension Honda let me walk on my 2nd car in 5 months ( first one hit and totaled) over $450 vin etching. I was already paying over sticker during the madness. I’ll never step foot in there again.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:59 am to achenator
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Ascension Honda
I went there once. Walked out like 45 minutes later. frick that place.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:11 am to 756
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I negotiate for a living , I love playing the game, and watching so-called professional salesmen lose. Just negotiated a deal for a family member, loved the whipped look on smart A sales Mgr when he lost,
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:14 am to Upperdecker
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Then I have to sign some written offer sheet with them to get the sale process going. TWICE those assholes fudged the written offer sheet and explained it to me incorrectly on purpose and rushed me to sign it, when it would have had me buying the car for way more than we agreed to. On the second time I told them I’d walk, they’d lose their deal, I’d make a big fuss to the other people buying on the way out, and I’d lodge a complaint with the BBB. That lit a fire under their arse and they finally came out with the real paperwork.
This is the kind of thing that burns my arse.
I was shopping for a new truck several years ago, and found what I was looking for at Gerry Lane in BR (which happened to be where I had bought my previous truck as well). Got a quote from their internet guy that I felt was reasonable, just needed to go in and negotiate my trade-in.
So I go down to Gerry Lane and the salesman quotes me a horrendously low-ball offer on my trade. To the point that it was actually insulting. He goes round and round, tries to obfuscate everything, and eventually I get fed up and walk.
Then, later that evening, the salesman calls me. He says “Hey man, we really want to make this deal. What if I can do $X on your trade-in?” I thought about it for a second and said “you know what, I think that’ll work. I’ll be back in the morning to finalize everything.”
So the next morning I go in expecting to sign the paperwork and move on with my life. Except.. the salesman says he still needs to get the trade-in offer approved. I said “what do you mean? You said you could do $X last night.”
He says, with a straight face, “Oh no, I didn’t say we could do $X. I asked what if we could do $X. I still have to run it by by manager.”
He brings it to his manager, who rejects the deal on the trade-in that his sales rep had already offered and says “sorry, this is the best we can do.” I’m still pissed about it to this day. Will never buy so much as a fricking floor mat from Gerry Lane again.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:16 am to lostinbr
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with a straight face, “Oh no, I didn’t say we could do $X. I asked what if we could do $X. I still have to run it by by manager.”
New price is $X+10% for being a frickhead.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:18 am to cassopher
If its accessories that the dealer already added its a cost they cant take off. Go look at a cheaper car with your broke arse.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:20 am to LSURussian
Youngsters dont know what high rates are. Bless their hearts.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:39 am to ThatTahoeOverThere
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If its accessories that the dealer already added its a cost they cant take off.
True, but the exorbitant amount Dollar Wise of the add-on accessories is something they have full control over.
When I was in this situation with a particular dealership I asked them to send me a cost breakdown of all the add-on accessories.
For example it didn't take a genius to figure out that charging $1,000 for a spray-in bed liner was a tad inflated...
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:53 am to Novastar
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My wife and I let them go through their entire script. They’re always so personable and friendly leading up to their pitch about extended warranties and how good of deal they’re giving us.
oh the last one went exactly like this. Dude was like, you are an LSU fan? I went to auburn and we were talking and cutting up, until i told him I didn't want an extended warranty.
The thing with these warranties is you don't have to get them rt away and you can go online to a much larger dealership and get them for cheaper. He quoted me like 1300 when I knew I could get for under 900 from a dealer in a much larger city. He basically called me a liar and then told me to email him when I find one for cheaper because no one does it cheaper.
I did find it for cheaper and no I didnt email him because I am not petty like that.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 1:36 pm to lostinbr
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lostinbr
I’ve also had that EXACT same thing happen to me. It must be their strategy. Loop someone in with a good deal on the purchase price online, then low ball the frick out of them on the trade in. But all that does is piss people off instead
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