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So is this like real football where our coach can make effective halftime adjustments? Or are we just outclassed here?
I’m actually considering watching some just for Haaland. He’s that exciting.
Y’all know I’m right - you’re just too stubborn to admit it.
The point where I knew I was right: I paused the debate to say how much I’ve enjoyed the World Cup and the spectacle surrounding it, and even that got 5 downvotes and zero upvotes. Sour grapes/sore losers.
I’ve bought 11 vehicles in the last 10 years. 9 of them were bought out of state. Local dealers suck.

re: For those 60 and up

Posted by TigrrrDad on 7/4/26 at 9:03 am to
All I remember was the Bicentennial train.
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But whatever, you don't have to watch if you don't like it. Nobody really cares.


It’s actually been a fun watch. I’ve watched a WC game or two in the past, and I realize how big the audiences for soccer are globally. But I didn’t realize how big of a spectacle the WC was as a whole. It’s been a joy to see the stories from the foreign fans traveling and experiencing so much of our country (I didn’t realize the venues would be so widespread). I’ve enjoyed the Haaland phenomenon and have watched games to see Ronaldo and Messi as well.

It’s just frustrating as hell to see Ronaldo break free, receive a pass, score a goal, and then it doesn’t count.:lol:

Lots of great sports overseas. I’m a huge MotoGP fan and almost no one in the US knows a thing about MotoGP. But they reach 340 million viewers in over 200 countries.
I’ll close with this: Get rid of the offsides rule and scores would be
14-12 instead of 2-1, and the global audience would double overnight.

We’ve already convinced those already viewing that excess is best by conditioning them with free drink refills, oversized brisket sandwiches at massive gas stations, etc., so they’ll all fall in line. None will resist the rule change.
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It would turn into like 4 v 4 at each end and when the defense got the ball they would just bomb it to the other end of the field, then those would go at it before it was bombed back the other way.


No it wouldn’t - that would be like QBs throwing Hail Marys every play. There would be little sense in bombing soccer passes down the field for 50/50 balls. Moving it downfield in a controlled manner most of the time would still be the more successful strategy - just like football (real football).
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So now you are saying they should just take 2 players essentially out of the game?


Not at all - I’m saying cherry picking wouldn’t happen because it would just be defended. Pointless to put a guy by the goal if the opposing team would just guard them, so it wouldn’t happen.
It’s why soccer will never gain an audience in a country with options.

Where did I contradict myself?

I’ve shot down the cherry picking argument.

A player can’t outrun the defender, get open, and then have ball passed to him. That makes no sense and defeats the purpose of sports.
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In soccer this is discouraged as they don't want the game to be long passes with battles to see who can come down with the ball all game


This doesn’t make sense. If a “cherry picker” stood near the goal and the other team posted someone next to him, there would be zero incentive for long passes to see who comes down with it.
But not until the ball is already passed, right?
Again, makes no sense. Passing a ball to someone who already got open is the point of ball sports (or non-boring ball sports).

I can see why people from other countries watch soccer - it’s the only game in town. But for viewers who grow up with other sports, it’s the single thing that ruins soccer.
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Of course he is.


How? That’s what made Ronaldo offsides.

The defender has no reason to get between Ronaldo and the goal if Ronaldo can’t receive the pass if he’s past the defender.
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Why doesn’t the WR just stand in the end zone


If he could, a defensive back would just stand next to him. No point to it so not a valid example.
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Its basically a moving line of scrimmage


So totally not a line of scrimmage.

As someone said, the Ronaldo goal was a perfect example. He’s not allowed to outrun the defender and break free to receive a pass. Then WTF is the point of speed & athleticism? It’s the whole point of sports. And what incentive does the defender have to get past him and guard him if he can’t receive the ball otherwise?
The cherry picking argument just doesn’t hold up. In basketball, a guy can just stand by his goal. But then the other team would just stand someone next to him. And it just means it’s 4 vs. 4 instead of 5 vs. 5 at the other end. No advantage or disadvantage for either team.
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The better comparison would be if the receiver was allowed to run past the line of scrimmage before the snap


Nah, cause in soccer the ball is already in play when offsides happens - thus “after the snap”.
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If an offensive player is behind the last defensive player when the ball is passed to them they are offside. This is what you will see 99% of the time.


This just makes zero sense to me. The entire point of ball sports is to break free from the defender.

ETA: So if a defender is at a disadvantage and is going to get beat, he can just choose not to defend because the offensive player can’t legally be past him.
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You ever wonder why an offensive player just doesn't hang out next to the goal the entire game?


Then the opposing team could just leave a defender back there with him.

The way it is now, it would be like if in football the receiver is not allowed to run past the defensive back.
Same.
Like is the point of soccer to not beat the defender?