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re: I hate the car buying process!

Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
534 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:37 pm to
tell them you don't care about the payment size; all you care about is the sales price. watch their brain slip a cog.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3809 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:38 pm to
Car dealers laugh at hard asses like you. You're playing a game just like they are, the only difference is they already have to be there all day.

It doesn't have to be a pain in the butt.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:46 pm to
I negotiate for a living , I love playing the game, and watching so-called professional salesmen lose. Just negotiated a deal for a family member, loved the whipped look on smart A sales Mgr when he lost,
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 4:50 pm
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3826 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:48 pm to
By law all those fees should be broken down. They cannot markup state fees such as plate, registration, title and every state has a cap on fees like documentation, notary and convenience.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12641 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Unfortunately, our accessories have already been added to our vehicles. The only one I can get approved to be removed would be the environmental protection.”


If you were there and were going to pay the market price… they would waive it before you walked. If you agreed to thr taxes and fees.

Here is a pretty good YT channel on car buying.

If it’s taxable… it’s negotiable.

This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 4:53 pm
Posted by tygerfan1
Member since Aug 2008
2272 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:49 pm to
BMW of Beaumont, Tx
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

doesn't have to be a pain in the butt


Can't rape the willing, and the majority are willing.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3826 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:51 pm to
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BMW of Beaumont, Tx



Texas will hit you with $799 document and/or convenience fee. I believe that's the state cap
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:52 pm to
Skip Beaumont go to Houston
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56326 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Too many dealerships add ridiculous mark-ups that are hurting the manufacturers bottom line.
how so.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
1620 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:57 pm to
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It’s a 2024 Trax. It’s for my daughter (no pics


These markups started back up during Covid, and dealers haven’t clued in that the market has reset.

That being said, according to Car Edge, the Trax is in the top 10 in sales (based on days on lot). Have you looked at the Buick Encore?
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:05 pm to
Again, competitive markets are back to pre covid pricing
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:07 pm to
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My car buying process: - Go to Tesla website, click a few buttons, 5 minutes later car is purchased - Go to Lightstream, spend 10 minutes applying for loan - Get loan money from Lightstream the next day after applying - Go pick up car


Unfortunately the small government conservatives in Louisiana have made it illegal to buy a new car direct from the manufacturer so you gotta drive to Mississippi to pick the car up so there is a wrinkle but still way better than having to go through a dealer.

I own two teslas but still have a GMC as a 3rd vehicle.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41140 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:09 pm to
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Correct except you should never TELL them ur paying cash.. . negotiate everything , then at the last second tell them youve decided to pay cash , or just pay off the vehicle after the first month- but make sure you eliminate any ‘early payoff penalty’ BS from the contract before you sign it .. these deviant , miscreant car dealers LIVE for financing these days, there’s a guy on YT who lays it all out excellently but i can tremember his name to post it.. probbaly several people though you can search .



My daughter had a car picked out. Reviewed the price with the dealer. I called to tell them I was coming with a check (guess they thought she'd be financing) and they backed out on the deal. Said that price was only for financing. I'll never do business there.

Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2077 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:17 pm to
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Skip Beaumont go to Houston
Texas is one of those states that gives you zero tax break on your old vehicle unless you sell it to the dealership.

For people who keep new cars a short time this amounts to thousands of dollars padding the dealer's pockets, and makes dealer pricing even less transparent.

Why the hell can't the tax assessor credit you for a notarized CarMax bill of sale within 30 days of your buying a new car somewhere else?

Seems like we should pester our state reps for this.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:21 pm to
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Said that price was only for financing. I'll never do business there.
that is likened to forced financing, illegal in some states and frowned upon in most states, always escalate that to general Mgr and report to state AG
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11626 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:25 pm to
It's like a proctology exam by a Dr. with fingers like kielbasas...
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5178 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:30 pm to
If they displayed those prices up front people flat out would not come. They get you in high pressure situations and get you to sign paperwork
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15438 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:35 pm to
Do your research beforehand. You should know what their inventory is, how much the dealer holdback is, etc before you go, have a number in your head based on a realistic value of your trade as well.

I give the dealership (and I tell them they only have one) one shot, I find on their lot the vehicle I want, check it over to make sure there’s not a problem (even with new there can be), and tell them what I’m willing to pay. Which will be a fair number.

If they come back with anything else, I get up and walk. Yes I’m the guy who will go to the dealership next door, drive back by with the one I just bought and wave.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4776 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:36 pm to
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It’s for my daughter (no pics).


This is funny. I’m doing the exact same thing for my daughter right now. Getting best prices from surrounding dealerships now. Will prob purchase the last day of the year. Supposedly that is when they make their best deals to get their bonus for x ammout of cars sold.
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