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Faced with soaring Ds and Fs, schools are ditching the old way of grading

Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:25 pm
ERRRABODY GETS A TROPHY!!!

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These days, the Alhambra High School English teacher has done away with points entirely. He no longer gives students homework and gives them multiple opportunities to improve essays and classwork. The goal is to base grades on what students are learning, and remove behavior, deadlines and how much work they do from the equation.

The changes Moreno embraced are part of a growing trend in which educators are moving away from traditional point-driven grading systems, aiming to close large academic gaps among racial, ethnic and economic groups. The trend was accelerated by the pandemic and school closures that caused troubling increases in Ds and Fs across the country and by calls to examine the role of institutionalized racism in schools in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd by a police officer.


Not sure what a 46 year old man being killed has to do with grades in school.

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Los Angeles and San Diego Unified — the state’s two largest school districts, with some 660,000 students combined — have recently directed teachers to base academic grades on whether students have learned what was expected of them during a course — and not penalize them for behavior, work habits and missed deadlines. The policies encourage teachers to give students opportunities to revise essays or retake tests to show that they have met learning goals, rather than enforcing hard deadlines.


forgot the link
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:26 pm to
China will destroy us
Posted by Boring
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:28 pm to
OP’s mom gets hit in the face with soaring Ds on the regular.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:29 pm to
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He no longer gives students homework and gives them multiple opportunities to improve essays and classwork.


Grading homework is pointless, and if the goal is to educate, giving kids the opportunity to study more and retake assignments makes sense in that context.

It’s less about every kid getting a trophy and more about making sure we educate kids as much as we can while we have them as a captive audience.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:30 pm to
In a lot of other countries, you need to be actually qualified to get a college degree. In the US, you have borderline illiterate people with graduate degrees.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:30 pm to
I fail to see how George Floyd who struggled with fentanyl and pills somehow points to kids not being able to read 1,000 miles away

But whatever man , nothing makes sense in 2021

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and not penalize them for behavior, work habits and missed deadlines.


This is horrifying for the future work force . Maybe they’ll hear the timer go off for the fries at McDonald’s in a timely fashion. We can only hope
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:30 pm to
I'd like to see side by side comparison of equal grade levels, public vs private.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:31 pm to
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It’s less about every kid getting a trophy and more about making sure we educate kids as much as we can while we have them as a captive audience.


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and not penalize them for behavior, work habits and missed deadlines.


And teach them accountability for their actions means nothing.
Posted by SelaTiger
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:31 pm to
It’s the American way!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:31 pm to
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role of institutionalized racism


Blah blah blah.

Stop punishing actual achievers to placate dysfunctional's who don't value education.
Posted by cadillac7563
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:31 pm to
If you can’t achieve your goals, make them up. Right?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:32 pm to
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In a lot of other countries, you need to be actually qualified to get a college degree. In the US, you have borderline illiterate people with graduate degrees.


Credentialism. It has ruined education in America.
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:33 pm to
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China will destroy us


We'll destroy ourselves soon enough when we start graduating engineers that'll build stuff like this...





Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:33 pm to
I support this. Teachers are overworked as it is. It’s a 12 hour a day job and having to grade papers literally makes it a 24/7 job
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:34 pm to
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and if the goal is to educate, giving kids the opportunity to study more and retake assignments makes sense in that context.
This is true, but potentially at the cost of learning the life skills of time management, deadlines, and consequences of poor decision making.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:34 pm to
And? This isn’t terrible. As adults, we all make mistakes in our professional and personal lives that we learn from. So long as their is a lesson being taught on responsibility as well, what’s the big hooha?
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Faced with soaring Ds and Fs, schools are ditching the old way of grading


This happened in Seattle or San Diego recently. Instead of addressing the problem, how do we help kids that are struggling in school do better, they just want to hide the problem by getting rid of the key metric that showed how much they were struggling.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 7:57 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:36 pm to
At first the doctor told me I had cancer, so I told him that was bullshite so then he said it was just indigestion so I'm fine now.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:37 pm to
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As adults, we all make mistakes in our professional and personal lives that we learn from.
and there are real life punishments and repercussions

you can't really teach those lessons in school without grades
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:37 pm to
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This is true, but potentially at the cost of learning the life skills of time management, deadlines, and consequences of poor decision making.



I agree and frankly, I would support this more at the k-8 levels as opposed to high school. But, as long as the level of education is mandatory, I think we should have a conversation about what our goals are in mandating it. Because if it’s to “train the workforce”, meh.
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