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re: Faced with soaring Ds and Fs, schools are ditching the old way of grading
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:49 pm to WDE24
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:49 pm to WDE24
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Just moving on to the next topic doesn’t accomplish the goal of educating for those that did poorly the first time through.
Which is precisely why you have different classes for students at differing levels.
I was a terrible math student, and had I been with my friends in various advanced math classes, I'd have virtually NEVER been ready to move on to the next topic. Had we been placed together, I'd have been in the position to force everything to grind to a halt to deal with my shortcomings.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:49 pm to DoUrden
If i had the opportunity to go read the test and fail, then come back the next day and retake it for a grade, just given the chance to read it and write what i read down after the test, i would make As and Bs without ever even hearing a word in school about the subject.
I’m not even sure how someone can’t pass with that given to them
I’m not even sure how someone can’t pass with that given to them
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:49 pm to DoUrden
The students are doing what we should do with taxes. Maybe they will change their rules if we don’t follow them
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Faced with soaring Ds and Fs
We all know the education system hasn't really changed for a long time, there something else driving the increase in bad grades, how about finding that problem and fixing it instead of literally dumbing things down.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:50 pm to ThatMakesSense
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The current system of education in America isn’t working. Go look for yourself on how far it’s dropped comparative to other countries. You’re cool with continuing that? Without change?
I’ve been teaching for 26 years, and I can tell you that the snowballing of policies like those mentioned in the OP are a big reason for the drop. They do not make anything better.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:51 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:The reason it isn’t working is because y’all keep enacting stupidity like this.
The current system of education in America isn’t working. Go look for yourself on how far it’s dropped comparative to other countries. You’re cool with continuing that? Without change?
Stop kowtowing to the lowest common denominator.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:52 pm to High C
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I’ve been teaching for 26 years, and I can tell you that the snowballing of policies like those mentioned in the OP are a big reason for the drop. They do not make anything better.
Oh. I thought this was a new thing. But apparently it’s been around long enough for you to understand it will only hamper. Thanks for clarifying.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:53 pm to GeauxTigerTM
How many chances do you give kids?
How do you mange lesson plans with such a warped system?
How do you measure learning?
How do you hold anyone accountible?
A race to the bottom.
How do you mange lesson plans with such a warped system?
How do you measure learning?
How do you hold anyone accountible?
A race to the bottom.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How many chances do you give kids?
How do you mange lesson plans with such a warped system?
How do you measure learning?
How do you hold anyone accountible?
A race to the bottom.
Some of y’all want to treat kids education the same as they do in China, but then hate China for doing it. It’s amazing.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:56 pm to DoUrden
You know what is pretty amazing? How often kids meet expectations when they are clearly spelled out and held to them
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:57 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Oh. I thought this was a new thing.
The incremental dumbing down has been going on for my entire career. These types of decisions are not made by people who work with these students on a daily basis.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:57 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Some of y’all want to treat kids education the same as they do in China, but then hate China for doing it. It’s amazing
Thats some awesome hyperbole that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
DO you somehow feel better?.
We spend more money on education than almost any other country with catastrophic results, and its directly related to lack of parenting and lack of accountability, Not some A or D.
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:57 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:i don't think placing all of the blame on the "system" is fair. our populace has rapidly devolved as well and there's not much you can do about that.
The current system of education in America isn’t working. Go look for yourself on how far it’s dropped comparative to other countries. You’re cool with continuing that? Without change?
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:57 pm to High C
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These types of decisions are not made by people who work with these students on a daily basis.
That’s the way to gripe! Blame your superiors.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Have you ever managed a classroom? With AP students, special ed students and regular students? There is no fricking way you have..
It just another marxist fairy tale that take us all to the bottom.
I haven’t. Please, educate me. What about this is going to drag down students any more than having AP students and special Ed students in the same classroom to begin with?
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:59 pm to TheWalrus
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borderline illiterate people with graduate degrees.
Hay - I reed gud
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:59 pm to High C
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This is typical nonsense tossed out by those not living in the real world of education currently. The assumptions that they will study more and that they are a captive audience are completely erroneous.
Then they don’t, and they fail. How is that any different than now?
I haven’t seen anyone advocate for slowing down the entire lesson plan, just to allow kids to self select to go back and retake assignments.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:59 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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You know what is pretty amazing? How often kids meet expectations when they are clearly spelled out and held to them
True, the problem is that we’re not allowed to actually hold them to those expectations.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:59 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:Who said anything about China?
Some of y’all want to treat kids education the same as they do in China, but then hate China for doing it. It’s amazing.
As if the only options are “China” and “subjective grading based on the feelings of the person whose job depends on student passage”.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 5:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats some awesome hyperbole that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
DO you somehow feel better?.
It absolutely applies. You’re mantra is not having the weak, drag down the strong? Ok great. I agree. However that will never be the case, unless of course you want to continue subsidizing the weak and uneducated. Or change the educational system.
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