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re: Cali Law Review Advocates using Black English for Lawyers.

Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:34 am to
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7611 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:34 am to
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In African American Vernacular English (AAVE), the phrases "He be at work" and "He at work" (which omits the "is") communicate completely different timeframes. The difference relies on grammatical rules involving habitual aspect versus temporary, ongoing action.1. "He be at work" (Habitual or Intermittent State)Using the uninflected "be" (the habitual "be") indicates a recurring, ongoing, or permanent reality. It means he is usually or consistently at his job as a habit.Meaning: "He works here regularly/usually," or "He is at work most of the time."Example: If someone asks, "Where is your brother on weekdays?", the answer "He be at work" means he is at his job routinely.2. "He at work" (Immediate, Temporary Action)Omitting the verb altogether (known as "zero copula") indicates that the action or state is happening right now.Meaning: "He is at work at this exact moment".Example: If someone asks, "Can you call him right now?", the answer "He at work" signifies he is currently clocked in, but it doesn't mean it's his daily routine or habitual schedule.AAVE vs. Standard EnglishIn traditional Standard English, both of these contexts are expressed using the "to be" verb in the present tense (e.g., "He is at work"). Standard English requires extra phrasing (such as adding "usually" or "every day") to capture the habitual meaning that AAVE conveys with a single word.

Ok, that's now clear as mud.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66500 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
4221 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:57 am to
Just looking to broaden the technicalities available to them. Screw em.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10623 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Stewardess, I speak jive: I think "he at work" is the present tense: he is at work. "He be at work" is a continuous tense. Not necessarily now, but in an ongoing way.


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* “He at work.” means he is at work right now. It’s equivalent to Standard English “He is at work.” In AAE, the verb is is often omitted when it can be contracted in Standard English. * “He be at work.” means he is usually or habitually at work. It describes a regular or repeated state, not necessarily what’s happening at this moment.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11460 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 12:40 pm to
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“He at work” and “He be at work” mean two completely different things.

Yea. So explain that in arguments. Don't use this degradation of the language in filings or common usage with the court or colleagues to further degrade our ability to communicate with each other.

You're a lawyer, not a fricking lay witness.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
4326 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:11 pm to
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Dang it, can't post the "I speak jive" gif from Airplane.

Posted by Bonnie Blue
Nashville
Member since Apr 2011
240 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:59 pm to
Can we call it retard English? That's what it is.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4994 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:05 pm to
Judge : Mr. X, how does your client plead?
MR.X : dindunuffin
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
6193 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:13 pm to
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Lawyers do not know as much about Black English as they should, and



Wonder how much it will pay to be a Hood Rat translator for the court?
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
18141 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:18 pm to
It’s a key Marxist strategy to keep us divided and distracted so we don’t unite and turn our attention towards them.

It’s a strategy as old as civilization.
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
2326 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:24 pm to
Post of the day
Posted by SOBmustpay
North Louisiana
Member since Jun 2026
184 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:17 pm to
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On the other, the courts, prosecution, and jury shouldn't have to need a translator to understand English. If you can't present your case clearly, including soliciting testimony from witnesses that is clear and articulate, then you haven't done your job as an attorney.

Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
6743 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 6:25 pm to
They mean the same exact thing.
This is so dumb.
Posted by Recognizable Poster
Geaux Tigers
Member since Mar 2026
1052 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:54 pm to
I enjoy using black slang because I find it humorous and shite given my english language skills are immaculate and I'm just so highly educated and well read. It's funny to me.Ya heard me? Word life
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52687 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134931 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:51 pm to
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He at work” and “He be at work” mean two completely different things.



Let me translate

"He at work" means "he's anywhere other than work"

"He be at work" means, "occasionally, he manages to hold a job"
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11668 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:12 am to
wtf?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38970 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:13 am to
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He at work” and “He be at work” mean two completely different things.


The frick?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39038 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:15 am to
I have a feeling they are already versed.in that
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4571 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:20 am to
Black English is just lazy and low IQ. It takes no more energy to say "He's at work".
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