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Cali Law Review Advocates using Black English for Lawyers.

Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:52 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58615 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:52 am
You can't make this up.

California Law Review

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Lawyers do not know as much about Black English as they should, and people’s freedom hangs in the balance. Differences between language varieties in sounds and grammar can change and have changed the outcome of cases: “He at work” and “He be at work” mean two completely different things. To reduce misinterpretation and therefore wrongful outcomes, this Article provides a primer on the sounds, words, grammar, and social context of Black English targeted directly at legal practitioners. It begins by explaining key concepts in linguistics and making the case for why lawyers must foreground accurate description over normative prescription when facing nonstandard language....


read the rest of the article if you want to see foolishness on display.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21508 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:54 am to
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“He at work” and “He be at work” mean two completely different things.


Posted by LootieandtheBlowfish
Member since Aug 2021
856 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:54 am to
quote:

”He at work” and “He be at work”


Something tells me neither of these are true.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21508 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:55 am to
I read this as lawyers should learn hood ebonics so they can better represent their black criminal defendants.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
20436 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:56 am to
Orrrrr.....how about blacks learn how to speak the language correctly and stop doing hoodrat shite with their friends.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
7282 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:59 am to
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Something tells me neither of these are true.

I wish I had more upvotes to give you sir as this comment is pure gold.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77749 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:59 am to
Once again, progressives acting racist as frick.

A tale as old as time.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86134 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:00 am to
Dis be clown world…yo?
Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
65035 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:01 am to
You had me at California.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14153 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:02 am to
Justice Jackson be on this.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38334 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:02 am to
Anytime you see the word “normative” used you can immediately write it off as pseudo academic garbage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480878 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:03 am to
On a semi-related note, why is "to be" such a difficult thing for lower class individuals? It's not just an American thing with BVE

If you listen to lower-class vernaculars in places like England, you see similar issues in conjugation and simplifying it (they like "were/was" instead of "be in BVE)
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11327 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:05 am to
Law Reviews are a dead relic. Now they’re basically equivalent to a national honor society for law students.

Nobody subscribes to them anymore or bothers reading their articles.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56362 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:05 am to
Why do we cater to minorities?
Posted by Disco Ball
Denham Springs
Member since May 2025
1769 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:09 am to
“He at work” and “He be at work”
Never heard these phrases from any black person
Definitely an AI generated article
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64493 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:10 am to
I think its great. California legal system is going to make itself completely insane to operate within and the only result will be selectively biased and corrupt enforcement of laws.

Just hope it can all stay secluded in that state.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21508 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:14 am to
I legitimately don't know the difference in those
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
631 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:14 am to
If a witness describes something in language that doesn't mean the same to the listener as it does to the speaker, then sure, that needs to be accounted for and translated as well as possible. As the U.S. Supreme Court noted:

quote:

In other cases, the relevant reliability concerns may focus upon personal knowledge or experience. As the Solicitor General points out, there are many different kinds of experts, and many different kinds of expertise. See Brief for United States as Amicus Curiae 18–19, and n. 5 (citing cases involving experts in drug terms ....

Kumho Tire Co., Ltd. v. Carmichael, 526 U.S. 137, 150, 119 S. Ct. 1167, 1175, 143 L. Ed. 2d 238, ___ (1999).

On the other hand, I doubt how well someone not routinely immersed in the culture can really stay current on what the slang and lingo mean.
Posted by ThroughThickAndThin
In The Zone
Member since May 2026
170 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:15 am to
That is the problem. All of these insane proposals and adoptions begin on the west coast, east coast and Chirac. They slowly ooze into our society until they become the norm. Book it
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
21426 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:17 am to

I can't wait until the day they have a translator in the courtroom for Black English to English.

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