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re: About that herd immunity

Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:35 am to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20442 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:35 am to
So if you get the actual disease and don’t get immunity, why do you think there will be a vaccine (depleted disease) that will give you immunity?

Here’s the reality, there’s likely never going to be a good answer other than just live a healthy life and move on.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
48923 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:35 am to
I never said I believed him or didn't believe, I was repeating what he said yesterday and that he doesn't think that getting reinfected will be what happens to the majority of people. You can literally find anything on the internet to support your argument when it comes to this virus.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6548 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:35 am to
Do you clowns think you have antibodies floating around for every single virus you have beat in the past 20 years?

T-cell immunity is a thing.

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23698 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:35 am to
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Those of you screaming for herd immunity, may need to re-think that.


It is kind of a pipe dream anyway considering that it would require a huge number of people to get the virus to develop antibodies, and would also require the virus not to mutate, etc.

We still don't have herd immunity to the ordinary flu. What makes anyone think we will suddenly develop herd immunity to this virus?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84081 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:35 am to
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This dude is terrified of Covid-19 but is willing to run out and get the first iteration of a rushed vaccine.

You can't make this shite up.


My kids' pediatrician won't even offer the vaccine when it first comes out for exactly that reason.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84081 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:36 am to
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It is kind of a pipe dream anyway considering that it would require a huge number of people to get the virus to develop antibodies, and would also require the virus not to mutate, etc.

We still don't have herd immunity to the ordinary flu. What makes anyone think we will suddenly develop herd immunity to this virus?




Thank you for destroying your party's response to this virus. Can we get back to normal life now?
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37243 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:36 am to
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vaccine comes, take the goddamn shot,


And get autism, I think not.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:36 am to
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Those of you screaming for herd immunity, .


I don't know of many "screaming" for herd immunity. I know a bunch who say to let the virus run its course just like we do with influenza.

The only people screaming are the timid, scared types, who think we can save ourselves with masks and isolation. But thats not a viable
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way to live with this,



So sounds like you are the one who
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may need to re-think that

Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2055 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:38 am to
What will they say when the vaccine ( never had a covid vaccine) doesn't work 100 % of the time.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97632 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:40 am to
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if you ever want to be able to hang out with your elderly grandparents or your fat friends.


I’m good
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:40 am to
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How do you know? There's going to be no concensus on whether the vaccine actually works. So you're going to blindly get a shot that may or may not work that could have side effects that you may or may not know about. I'll pass on that until I have more conclusive data.


I'm going on the understanding that a vaccine will be tested and peer-reviewed and good to go. Lots of resources going into this process. If it looks like some shady stuff is being done, then I'll have to re-think my position, for sure.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20863 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:41 am to
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At this point I don’t give a frick if I get it. Probably have already had it, still don’t give a frick. Open shite back up and let’s move on with life.



Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:42 am to
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How many times does someone get the flu, twice in one year?


How many times does the entire country shutdown for the flu?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:42 am to
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I'm going on the understanding that a vaccine will be tested and peer-reviewed and good to go. Lots of resources going into this process


Well that's certainly been the case these last 6 months with all the shite they've already said. Almost everything regarding the virus has been flip flopped several times.

I'm fine with the data being inconclusive, but don't act like what you are saying (as in anyone) is proven fact.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2055 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:42 am to
Yeah cause we have never been lied to before. This ends in November win or lose.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10456 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:43 am to
These studies are not controlled at all and focus on looking at a collection of results.

Without a controlled study, these are somewhat meaningless for drawing any real conclusions.

That said, viral load has a huge impact on developing long term immunity. Getting a lower load and fighting it off as asymptomatic will not yield a strong response in most cases.

Still there is no guarantee that a heavy load and getting very sick will lead to long term immunity either. People just need to practice being safe and clean overall to avoid it. Vaccines will be shots in the dark given it is mutating rapidly.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115737 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:44 am to
There are simply no documented cases of someone being infected with covid, recovering, and then being infected again. None.

There are people that show up positive several times, but no documented cases of someone being re-infected.
Posted by Wallywalrus
Baton rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2017
878 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:45 am to
Asymptomatic people dont need immunity if it doesn't affect them, isn't that basically what immunity is?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:46 am to
Sooo if you can’t develop and sustain antibodies then what the hell good is a vaccine going to do for you anyway?? Lol
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90571 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:46 am to
So those who are susceptible to complications will be immune while the rest might get it once a year and run fever for a couple days.

Big whoop
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