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Geauxgurt
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Every year in May, youtube videos jump up with "man on the street" interviews with new college grads, being asked very basic questions. The results are depressing.
You mean this heavily edited videos where they ask 1,000 people the same question and picky the ten or twenty that are morons? Yes. That’s clearly a great example of what the other 980 were.
Some of you have bought so hard into the Charlie Kirk types’ BS scams, and it really is sad.
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Again, LSU can play chicken with BK
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/11/25 at 8:21 pm
To earn his full buyout, there are several stipulations:
1) Payments will be made in equal monthly payments over the remainder of the original contract term (6.1 years).
2) Kelly is required to make good faith attempts to find equivalent employment. He cannot just retire and count his money. Failure to make a good faith effort to find employment would invalidate the buyout and he would no longer receive payments.
3) any salary/payment from the new job would be subtracted from what LSU owes in the buyout at the time. Unlike Jimbo, Malzhan and Freeze. Kelly’s is similar to Franklin’s with Penn St.
Again, if LSU wants, they can force him to make legitimate effort to find new work and the job has ti pay market value (can’t pay him cheap and use LSU buyout to bring salary up to market value).
If he refuses to do it, file suit for breach of agreement and he loses the remainder of the buyout.
It’s not that hard and he is using rumors and message board chatter to claim LSU is trying to cheat him.
1) Payments will be made in equal monthly payments over the remainder of the original contract term (6.1 years).
2) Kelly is required to make good faith attempts to find equivalent employment. He cannot just retire and count his money. Failure to make a good faith effort to find employment would invalidate the buyout and he would no longer receive payments.
3) any salary/payment from the new job would be subtracted from what LSU owes in the buyout at the time. Unlike Jimbo, Malzhan and Freeze. Kelly’s is similar to Franklin’s with Penn St.
Again, if LSU wants, they can force him to make legitimate effort to find new work and the job has ti pay market value (can’t pay him cheap and use LSU buyout to bring salary up to market value).
If he refuses to do it, file suit for breach of agreement and he loses the remainder of the buyout.
It’s not that hard and he is using rumors and message board chatter to claim LSU is trying to cheat him.
LSU could put the $43 million in an investment fund over the 6 years he’s owed and pay him the $54 million with the accrued interests plus the initial $43 million themselves.
Then still have the offset language and force him to make a legitimate effort to find work to stay in agreement with the buyout.
This gives Kelly more than he is owed with no stipulations.
LSU admin and Landry are stupid but Kelly is a POS for that suggestion.
Then still have the offset language and force him to make a legitimate effort to find work to stay in agreement with the buyout.
This gives Kelly more than he is owed with no stipulations.
LSU admin and Landry are stupid but Kelly is a POS for that suggestion.
re: They may be trying to get Kelly for cause
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/11/25 at 2:42 am to pmacneworleans
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There is a clause that allows LSU to offset from remaining balances other income he earns and also that he has to use all best efforts to secure other income.LSU is wanting to reduce the buy out, and pay it in a lump sum, and in exchange Kelly gets to keep all other income.
And there is the rub many are seeming to miss. LSU has yet to not live up to their end of the buyout. They are working towards a settlement offer different from that prescribed in the contract.
If they were not paying him his monthly payout/salary, then he would have a point, but they are paying him. They have not breached the contract and would not do so unless they officially fire him and did not pay him his scheduled buyout payment.
The other side of the coin is that he must make good-faith attempts to secure employment to maintain eligibility for the buyout, but this does not have to happen immediately. It also has to pay him market value for the position. He can't use his LSU buyout to take, say $1 million a year at his new job and then let LSU pay him $8 million. This would constitute a breach of the contract terms.
If he wants to retire, he would either have to forfeit his buyout or reach a settlement with LSU to waive those parts of the agreement.
If LSU does plan to fire for cause or use that as leverage, it will depend on how things were officially played out. Woodward never had the capacity on his own to fire/terminate Kelly. The BOS has to do that, and if they did not have an official meeting, the firing would have to be on an official agenda.
There are a lot of semantics, but nowhere has LSU not paid their obligation to date on Kelly's buyout.
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absolutely wrong....Kelly has all the leverage. He wants the entire buyout because its in the contract. He might not even want to work again.
You are wrong. He is not entirely to the entire buyout in a single lump sum. For the entire buyout, it is clearly spelled out in the language of the contract to be paid in equal monthly payments over the remainder of the contract terms. LSU has yet to not pay him that.
He is trying to stop any chance they fire him for cause, which they have not formally even tried to do yet. They claimed settlement negotiations were on going.
re: Brian Kelly Files Suit Against LSU
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/11/25 at 1:50 am to Giantkiller
He cannot be fired officially without the consent and approval of the BOS. Only they can terminate his contract.
With that said, unless they are not paying him his salary in its normal increments, he really does not have a leg to stand on.
LSU has yet to formally make any claim that they play to fire for cause (random internet comments or even suggestions by the AD do not count) and to our understanding, they are still paying him his due contract obligations.
Kelly is fighting for more of the money with the settlement. LSU is entitled to spread the money across the remising 6 years in equal payments and has the right to an offset of the buyout should he be hired. Kelly has to make good faith attempts to be hired in a similar level position and for a market salary. If he wants to just retire or not have the lump sum, then he has to come to an agreement with LSU.
In the end, it is a mess, but Kelly is trying to force a higher settlement and removal of any contractual obligations. LSU does not have to do either. They can wait and force him to continue to look for work legitimately as long as they make th appropriate monthly payments.
With that said, unless they are not paying him his salary in its normal increments, he really does not have a leg to stand on.
LSU has yet to formally make any claim that they play to fire for cause (random internet comments or even suggestions by the AD do not count) and to our understanding, they are still paying him his due contract obligations.
Kelly is fighting for more of the money with the settlement. LSU is entitled to spread the money across the remising 6 years in equal payments and has the right to an offset of the buyout should he be hired. Kelly has to make good faith attempts to be hired in a similar level position and for a market salary. If he wants to just retire or not have the lump sum, then he has to come to an agreement with LSU.
In the end, it is a mess, but Kelly is trying to force a higher settlement and removal of any contractual obligations. LSU does not have to do either. They can wait and force him to continue to look for work legitimately as long as they make th appropriate monthly payments.
He’s an overly glorified recruiter. People will blame the OL for his units awful development, and ignore that nearly everyone running back he touches regresses as they get his coaches. A few unicorns manage to overcome his coaching but it’s honestly amazing how anyone in their right mind can call him a good running backs coach. He’s straight awful and living off the successes of Jeremy Hill and Fournette.
Hell they even give home credit for CEH when he didn’t once coach him :lol:
Hell they even give home credit for CEH when he didn’t once coach him :lol:
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How does the back judge overrule the guy staring at the ball straight down the line on the touchback/non-touchback? And you don't have endzone cameras on both sides of the field to show it?
This one infuriated me the most, because the one being adamant about it was the one whose view was obstructed by the player making the play. He had absolutely no right to make that call and should have deferred to the guy with direct sight, but this is the SEC and they are corrupt.
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What's the ref even doing counting players in the endzone 10 seconds after the play is over, before calling an illegal formation penalty?
Needed to call a penalty because someone blew their whistle assuming too many men. When he couldn't find that, they called a false start to cover their asses and make sure they got what they wanted.
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How do you have to review 3 offensive plays in a 5-6 play stretch, in a single offensive series- are the onfield refs just that bad?
The first one was the only one that was clear as day and didn't need to be reviewed at all. The fact they stopped the game for that one was the egregious part. The other two were corrected to the right call, so you can't really complain. The slide one was ticky tack, but unfortunately correct.
In the end, SEC refs cannot be that incompetent. You can't continue to just claim "refs are human and make mistakes" at this point, and it is clearly some corruption.
I don't think it's specifically for Bama over everyone, but rather teams they want to see succeed so that they can get them the most money. Look at the UGA Auburn game. It was so bad that they had to punish the refs for being so obvious.
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Here are the RBs that came in as freshmen that he coached in his tenure here from 2010-2015. Spenser Ware, Alfred Blue, Michael Ford, Terrence McGee, Kenny Hilliard, Jeremy Hill, and Darrel Williams? Tell me which of these regressed from their freshman year on. Nearly every one?
Let's see:
Spencer Ware - 7+ ypcs his freshmen year, 4.0 & 3.9 ypc next two years
Alfred Blue sucked until
Alfred Blue - better in the NFL than in college. His best year in college, he had 539 yards total rushing. Nothing to glorify.
Michael Ford was a bust overall despite being a 5 start - less than 400 yards per year in two out of 3 years. His best year was 2011, but even that was underwhelming.
Kenny Hilliard was another 5 star bust who never broke 500 yards in season and was no better than his freshman year any year.
Jeremy Hill only played 2 years, but was perhaps his one great job.
Fournette was a freak that really didn't change from freshman year and despite his sophomore year his vision actually got worse from his freshman year on and he was simply a physical beast.
Coached Guice only his Freshman year and Williams only for two years where Williams had a combined roughly 600 yards rushing mostly in garbage time. Williams and Guice's best years came after Wilson left.
Looking at his running backs since returning, every single one has regressed:
Jackson, Durham, Emory (up and down and never lived up to his hype outside of a couple of games), Noah Cain was bad. Godwin and Bradford never developed.
Josh Williams was the only one and he had been on the team 3 years before Wilson came and had already shown himself to be a good back and never really jumped much higher.
In the end, Wilson sucks as a Running Back coach and was bailed out by a couple of Freaks in all his time at LSU with Fournette and Hill. Other than them, not a single running back has lived up to the hype and nearly all of them regressed if he coached them past their freshman year.
re: LSU and Brian Kelly are at odds over his contract buyout
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/9/25 at 4:56 pm to idlewatcher
This is well-deserved for a POS administration at LSU. I hope they get teamed by his lawyers. Not for his benefit, but just to punish their shear incompetence and arrogance.
This program and system is such garbage right now that it is unbelievable.
This program and system is such garbage right now that it is unbelievable.
re: Anyone supporting the retention of Frank Wilson, does not care about LSU
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/9/25 at 10:14 am to lsufball19
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What an ignorant statement
Don’t let facts hit you in the face. :lol:
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I don’t want him as HC. But I don’t know why people think he had some magic wand and could fix all our issues. This program is a mess. At least he had the nuts to bench Nuss.
I don’t want him on staff at all. He’s been a jet negative for the program, but Kobe of you want to see it.
All analysis shows he’s actually regressed nearly every running back at LSU in his time here. It’s not a coincidence.
His recruiting is absurdly overrated and even if it was so great is not needed when you just are buying players now.
You need an actual coach now, not a glorified politician.
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He’s essentially O, just not trashy.
Not even close. O was actually one of the top DL coaches in the country and could recruit as good as anyone.
Wilson actually is so bad at coaching running backs, the easiest position to coach, they actually get worse from his coaching.
:lol:
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You can't, but that's what LSU fans do. Results over analysis. I mean, people wanted Jay fired.
Are you that stupid? Call out fans about not using analysis when any legitimate analysis shows he actually makes our RBs worse as they get his coaching. :bwahaha:
re: Anyone supporting the retention of Frank Wilson, does not care about LSU
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/9/25 at 10:08 am to SludgeFactory
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First off, frick off OP. Dude is taking a role due to the HC leaving. Give him credit for stepping up as a temp. He needs to stay on staff. He's a top recruiter and players love him.
Stepping up? You act like the guy is making some great sacrifice. :bwahaha:
re: Anyone supporting the retention of Frank Wilson, does not care about LSU
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/9/25 at 10:08 am to SulphursFinest
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How can you call him an awful RB coach when we have a god awful O line and 2 RBs are associated with murder and got kicked off the team.
Explain to me why every time a true freshman comes in behind those same OL only to be come shot the next year or two or three?
There is enough data there to demonstrate he is not only not a good running backs coach but actually makes them worse.
Anyone supporting the retention of Frank Wilson, does not care about LSU
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/9/25 at 8:52 am
He sucks as a head coach.
He is an awful running backs coach that has seen nearly every player he coaches regress from freshman year on.
He is nothing but. A political hire to appease a bunch of asshat coaches in the NOLA area.
He brings nothing of real positive value to building this program at any level.
Just shut up about Wilson being a must keep. He needs to go along with Verge for the betterment of the program.
He is an awful running backs coach that has seen nearly every player he coaches regress from freshman year on.
He is nothing but. A political hire to appease a bunch of asshat coaches in the NOLA area.
He brings nothing of real positive value to building this program at any level.
Just shut up about Wilson being a must keep. He needs to go along with Verge for the betterment of the program.
re: LSU 9 @ Alabama 20 Final - ABC
Posted by Geauxgurt on 11/8/25 at 9:42 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Just throw three incomplete passes if you are just going to burn 2.5 minutes of clock for no reason.
How was that not running into the kicker?
Is there are reason they have a WR running free without over the top help every play?
This scheme is so awful right now.
This scheme is so awful right now.
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