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Could absolutely be thrips. We'll get him sorted.

Kari starfruit doing it's thing.



The Shenandoah pawpaw graft that I stupidly destroyed with a falling branch last weekend is recovering. Will be much more careful from now on. Unfortunately the scion had only two live buds and one is not coming back.

OK that's definitely not what I was expecting. I was looking for regular anthracnose damage. This almost looks like fungal shot hole disease that you find on peaches, but mangos don't get shot hole as far as I know. I think what you have here is an insect problem followed by a fungal problem. When some insects feed on the leaf, it creates an entryway for fungus. So you get a bug that bites a part of the leaf and within hours opportunistic fungal spores attack at the spot of the bite. As the fungal spot develops a hole appears in the leaf. This would explain why your copper is isn't doing anything. Rain is washing it off and new fungal spores are hitching a ride on the bugs to get to the leaves.

That's my theory anyway. Now let's kill those sons of bitches. We gotta fix bugs first, then fungus. I'm not one of those all natural "the only pesticide I feel safe using is peppermint oil and dish soap" kind of people. I use chemicals because they work. But I'll start you with the gentlest protocol possible and we can escalate if it doesn't fix your tree.

Bugs: spinosad. Bonide Captain Jack's is the most widely available one. Why spinosad? Because it's a natural organic pesticide that is only toxic to insects and aquatic invertebrates and more importantly because it has a reasonably persistent translaminar effect. The spinosad penetrates the leaves and will briefly act like a systemic pesticide. I would hit the whole tree with spinosad 2-3 times per week when new growth is present. If that doesn't work we can talk about actual systemic pesticides.

Now the fungus. If it was just insect feeding, it wouldn't be so bad. The secondary fungus is what's really jacking up your leaves. I would start with Monterey Garden Phos spray once every week or two. The phosphites it contains suppress fungal cellular respiration but also have the amazing secondary effect of stimulating plant cells to prepare an immediate immune response. The plant doesn't get caught off guard and is immediately ready to attack arriving fungal spores (which are already metabolically weakened from the phosphites). In addition to garden phos, I would spray once a month with Bonide Infuse (propiconazole). This is a true systemic fungicide that will last for about a month in the tissues of the plant. It will control almost any fungal disease you can think of along with many bacterial diseases.

If you want, you can try one thing at a time to use the least amount of chemicals possible to control the issues. But I would hit em with the triple whammy immediately because I hate malignant bugs and fungi.
Can you post a picture or two? Let's confirm it's fungus and then figure out what kind. Copper is usually very good against anthracnose but maybe I'll see something else.

I highly recommend Monterey garden phos. Systemic fungicide that prevents all of this stuff from even happening.
Next mango up is Dupuis Saigon. Best mango so far. Extremely sweet with a strong citrus and floral component. Almost reminded me of lychee.

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Are you spraying? If you're not spraying you will really struggle to grow mango trees in South Louisiana. We are too humid and wet. That's why Pickering is so great, extreme fungal resistance.

I would try to let it stay dry under a porch if possible the next time it rains and spray with copper before and after rain. They get better at dealing with it when they are older. But new growth on a young tree is susceptible.
Not so fast. Our official website says LSU beat that Bulldog arse.

We won the game, idiot! Run ruled your dumb arse.




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re: Nice try, lsu-sports.net.

Posted by Tigerlaff on 5/11/26 at 5:47 am to
I like it. In fact I think we can sweep Florida this way. NCAA tourney committee isn't watching these games.

Nice try, lsu-sports.net.

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I assume the W is for "WTF?"
It was different. I think I made it way too strong. It had this flavor note that tasted the way one of my pesticides smells. Couldn't shake the thought and didn't finish it. I'll stick to Camellia sinensis.
Redlands white sapote. Tastes like vanilla custard. Sometimes the skin is bitter and sometimes no flavor. I usually do not eat the skin. Saving seeds to trial them out in zone 9a. White sapote is surprisingly cold hardy.



Guava / Sein ta Lone mango. Last year the guava mango I had tasted and smelled exactly like a ripe guava. This one weirdly did not smell like anything but somehow tasted like a guava smells, not like a guava tastes. Very, very sweet. The seed is often polyembryonic so I'll probably germinate it just for the hell of it. No chance of ever raising a seedling to fruiting age.





One trillion Jamaican cherries (Muntingia calabura). Tastes like cotton candy and buttered popcorn. Love this tree, great for kids. Handfuls of fruit every day.





Also made my first batch of guava leaf tea today. Asians swear by it. I prune guavas all the time and figured I might as well make use of the fresh leaves. Waiting for it to cool to try it.

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This part worries me. It only has two shitty looking leaves on it. The pups around it look great, though.

In this case the fertilizer and water is even more important. The pups will feed the corm which will in turn feed the fruiting tree. But it's not as strong as the main psuedostem feeding itself. Do not remove or damage any pups. You need them soaking up as much sun as possible.

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So cut them as soon as they look like they're even thinking about ripening, got it. I would have let them ripe on the tree if you hadn't said anything.

Yes. The absolute perfect scenario would be to cut a full rack of plump filled out light green fruit with the bottommost fruit just breaking to yellow. All the rest happens off the tree.
Dude you are in for a treat. You may know all of this already but let me give you some tips for how to harvest them.

The tree is done making leaves. The leaves it has are all that's available to make sugar for the fruit, so don't remove any leaves. Water, sun, fertilizer.

It's gonna take probably 4-5 months to reach ripeness. You will know it's time to cut the rack down when the bananas are filled out and don't have those ridges anymore AND you see the first one break color to yellow. If you leave them on the tree too long they will all split. It's better to harvest early than too late, so if it looks like they are filled out and starting to split, cut it down even if it hasn't broken color yet and hang it in the shade outdoors. A porch or garage is perfect. You can also remove individual hands of bananas from the rack if they are very far apart from end stage ripeness. In other words, if the bottom hands are ready and the top aren't you can cut off just the bottom. If it's a race against the clock and winter is imminent, tie a black trash bag over the rack and check them once per day.

Namwah is a thick sweet banana with fruity tones. You will immediately realize the difference. Let the individual fruits get as ripe as possible before eating. It's not like store grand nain bananas that turn to mush when they get brown. Let those suckers get brown with a little dark yellow before peeling them. The peel will look ugly and the fruit will be perfect.

Man I wish I was getting some namwahs this year. Only place I know to buy them is the tropical fruit market under the interstate at 812 N. Claiborne.

Good luck and godspeed!
So lucky man. That's awesome. My advice is to push that thing with a weekly liquid fertilizer high in potassium and keep it always well watered. That will speed up the ripening. You probabaly have enough time for it to mature before it stops growing in the winter. My rajapuri hasn't flowered yet and I'm running out of time.

Have you ever tasted namwah bananas?
Rain knocked off the first couple of dwarf guavas that were ripening. Didn't have time to get sweet. It did however have a good bit of tartness which indicates they could be very good when mature. It's the insipid ones with no taste that are a bad sign. Still has the amazing tropical guava aroma, though.





Usually these are white or pink but I was lucky and got an orange one.
PSA: Bob Wells Nursery has grafted pawpaws back in stock. Allegheny, Potomac, KSU Atwood, and KSU Benson. These are perfect sized trees for planting. Big enough to be strong but not big enough that the taproot has curled in the pot. They are even grown in the proper tall pots for pawpaws. I grabbed a Benson and Atwood.

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what should i amend it with other than compost? do you think fall will be ok to plant? i would get one of those popup greenhouses to cover this winter


Why not plant now? I would not plant bananas in the fall. They completely stop growing at 60-65F and may not sufficiently establish before winter freezes. If you have to wait until fall, start them in pots and overwinter.

Just put compost at the base of each tree and chuck a handful of fertilizer at it every few weeks. They're not picky. Insanely aggressive growers.
Hua moa and pitogo are DEFINITELY some boutique bananas. Very cool! That pitogo rack looks very similar to veinte cohol.