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achapp3

Thank you for posting. This guy really knows his stuff and y'all should listen to anything he says. Your YouTube channel is one of the things that inspired me to zone push tropical fruit in south LA.

Do you have any actual Mexican cream guava? It's basically impossible to find. I've got a guy in California attempting to graft me one. He did not have access to the tree to air layer. Guava grafts are extremely difficult as you likely know. I've got jalisco red of Tropical Fruit Forum fame if you'd be interested in a trade.
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Lychee looks great. I’m impressed. Mine hasn’t done anything in nearly two years except sit there.

Thanks man. Lychee is a Goldilocks container tree and only the dwarf emperor variety is really feasible in a pot. It needs a good bit of cold to flower, but not anything below 32F. It needs nearly daily water while flowering and fruiting, but effectively zero water from October - January. Did I mention that water needs to be perfectly pure with a pH of 7 or lower? Rain water is ideal but charcoal filtered tap is what you usually have to settle for. Also needs a soil pH of around 5.5 and very little to zero fertilizer and definitely no urea nitrogen fertilizer. And that soil better have impeccable drainage. Oh, and if the tree comes from Florida it already has possibly the most ineradicable eukaryotic pest on earth, the lychee erinose mite. I was able to defeat them permanently but only because there isn't another lychee within 400 miles of me.

So now that I have satisfied every single one of these conditions, I get to see if it will produce the right kind of flower to actually set fruit. :lol:
I took all my protective shite down today. Not including greenhouses. I'm not doing it again. If we have another freeze yard plants are on their own. 18 days of sub freezing temps thus far. Low of 18F.

Jaboticaba flowering.


Passionfruit all good after 27F with covering. Lychee is also going nuts. Problem is that it's almost all male flowers. Hoping to see some female or hermaphrodite flowers soon.


Lara Farms ships all kinds of 3 gal avocados. Do your research first and make sure it's a Mexican race cultivar.

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That would be an excellent mix. Get some soil sulfur too because the coir will not hold the pH down like peat will. You don't need a lot but the pH of peat is like 3-4 whereas coir is like 5-7. Tap water everywhere is alkaline and in most cases very alkaline.
I would do the same. Pumice is lighter than the granite. Didn't know you were planning on DG.
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Question. Are the seeds always that hard inside ?

On tropical guava, yes. Cattley guava seeds are softer. This is one of the main reasons I don't like crunchy Asian guavas. They need to be chewed and those seeds are just as hard. When the fruit is soft and creamy you just swallow the seeds with the pulp.
I can help with lychee. I've turned out to be pretty good with it so far. Lmk if you decide to try again.

Mamey is essentially impossible here in a container. Too big. Too cold sensitive. Fruit takes too long to ripen. If you get below 50F during the winter I don't think the effort is worth it. There are some smaller cultivars but not small enough to make a difference. If you are dead set on something like mamey I would look at Whitman green sapote. Smaller fruit, smaller tree, marginally better cold tolerance.
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What is your opinion on Coco Coir in replacement for the Peat Moss?

Not as good as peat but easily the second best organic option. Has not been dead as long so contains more tannins and also not as good for maintaining acidic pH. Moisture retention is equal IMO. Also much cheaper usually.

Pumice is fantastic too if you have a good source. Much lighter than the sand.
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No true lime or avocado


Key lime is a true lime. Persian like is slightly easier but I'd put it in the same tier with lemons and key lime.

Avocado is trickier and I would put all 3 races in the hard tier with Guatemalan and West Indian races harder than Mexican races.
Here's my first stab at a tier list in the updated OP. This list is overall difficulty in containers in zone 9a, not just any single factor like cold hardiness or nutritional needs.

Super easy / automatic
Cattley guava (strawberry)
Cattley guava (lemon)
Figs
Meiwa kumquat
Nagami kumquat
Suriname cherry (black)

Easy
Meyer lemon
Guava
Loquat
Starfruit / carambola
True oranges
Mandarin oranges
Cherry of the Rio Grande
Miracle fruit
Sugar apple
Passionfruit
Feijoa (Unique only)

Average / Medium
Key lime
True lemons
Jaboticaba
Sapodilla (dwarf only)
Mango (dwarf only)
Jamaican cherry
White sapote
Longan
Grumichama
Pitomba
Atemoya (Geffner only)
Pineapple
Bananas (dwarf only)

Hard
Lychee
Dragonfruit
Most Garcinia (Luc's, Lemon Drop, Achachairu)
Atemoya (non-Geffner)
Cherimola
Custard apple
Cherilata
Ilama
Avocado

Extremely difficult / impossible
Mamey
Soursop
Jackfruit
Mangosteen
Vanilla orchid
Coffee
Sweet granadilla passionfruit (ligularis)
Dwarf coconut
Durian
Cacao
Breadfruit

I cannot recommend loquat for the super easy container list in zone 9. I have several. They flower and fruit over the winter and both the blooms and fruit are damaged at about 27F. They also require a brief dry period in the summer to flower well and excess nitrogen during the growing season will prevent flowering. My 15g Oliver tree completely failed to bloom this year due to excess water and nitrogen. Finally, they are prone to fireblight and should be sprayed for it after rain if there is any fireblight in the local area.

Seedling trees from local populations have fewer of these problems, but they also take much longer to fruit and are not as good as the premium named cultivars. One of the very best, Vista White, is apparently not self fertile and requires another nearby tree for pollination.

If you have even the slightest bit of experience and can read Google, then I agree with you that they are very easy. But my list above is what I would give to people as a gift that can't keep clover alive in their yard. :lol: Actually, this gives me a great idea to create a tier list. Maybe a breakdown of super easy, easy, moderate, hard, and extremely hard.
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have been wanting to ask you and TG about a easy fruit tree that I could do inside my pool cage. But now, Im not sure I would want to try it.


My list of "easy" container trees below. To be considered easy, they need to be either dwarf or very accepting of hard pruning, fibrous root system, no weird seasonal requirements (chill hours, dry season, etc.), not picky about water chemistry, water timing, or soil pH, little to zero pest pressure, can tolerate some freezing weather, and productive every single year. Basically it has to be beginner proof and thrive with nothing but soil, water, fertilizer, and sun. Here they are:

Cattley guava (strawberry)
Cattley guava (lemon)
Figs
Meiwa kumquat
Nagami kumquat
Suriname cherry (black)

Each of these has been almost too easy. If you're willing to bend on the cold hardiness a little bit the list gets a lot longer.
This winter has sucked arse for sure. Back in mid January I was quietly starting to believe we were going to get through without a single hard freeze. Instead we've had more nights below freezing than I can remeber in a very long time.

My back is killing me after dragging out all the cold protection stuff again today. Bringing pots in, organizing and stuffing greenhouses, wrapping trees, stringing lights, mounding mulch. I'm over it boys. :lol: This is always the toughest part of winter for me. Just gotta remember that the 9-10 months of fun times are truly imminent and may even start late this week.

Got a very nice off season ruby supreme guava today. I'm very pleased with this one because in the past the off season ones have usually been bland. This was not as good as a peak on season fruit, but I'd have to call it a 7/10 which is great.

I'm posting pics so any of y'all growing guavas will know how to recognize perfect ripeness. This one stayed on the tree until it fell off into the organza bag that caught it. Then I put it along with a banana in a closed paper grocery bag for 2 days at room temperature on the kitchen counter. The remaining traces of green changed to yellow. What you are really looking for is this first sign of red blush on the yellow skin. You start to see the red flesh inside as the skin thins out. This one is textbook perfectly ripe

At harvest:

Fully ripe:






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Super Hass today. Also known as Oh La La and it is credited to a Louisiana yard grower from a Hass seedling.

The story is actually way better than that.

Super Hass was a supermarket avocado seedling that someone planted next to the sheltered brick wall of a dorm room at ULL. After a few winters, someone noticed that this thing was very productive and cold hardy and they tried to turn it into a Louisiana commercial crop. They grafted tons of them and several nurseries had super Hass clones growing in pots. But the cold was too much. That protected brick wall at ULL was a unique microclimste and the nursery stock died too easily from the winter cold in Louisiana.

But a few of the clones made their way to central and south Florida and that is when it took off. This avocado was cold hardy, productive, disease resistant, tough enough to ship, and had decent eating quality. The super Hass AKA "Ooh La La" AKA "ULL" became the premier commercial avocado of Florida and now in other parts of the world too. All from a chance seedling in Lafayette.
That flamethrower looks great dude. The oldest frond will always look ratty. Don't cut them off. The tree pulls nutrients out of the old dying fronds into the main body of the plant. The lack of direct sunlight is clearly working. If you decide to give it some go slowwww. Like 30 minutes max then pull it.

The foliage pro is fine for now but eventually you will want something with more potassium. 8-2-12 is ideal for palms.

That crownshaft is awesome. You're going to have a really remarkable palm for a long time to come.
Nice! I suck at pineapples for some reason. Can never tell if I'm giving them too much or not enough light and water. Also found out the hard way that fertilizer will injure them if it touches the inside cup. Any tips on how to keep them happy?
So sorry to hear this. Wishing the best for his young family. I cannot imagine.
Yep, a nice late Feb. freeze just in time for my jaboticaba that is about to bloom.

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said United States Attorney Zachary A. Keller.

Ha, I know this guy. Good on you, Zach. Fry this fish.