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re: About that herd immunity
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:27 am to Mr Perfect
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:27 am to Mr Perfect
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thanks for the facts.
You don't know what a fact is. Hint: They aren't preceded by "might" or "may".
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:27 am to LSUFanHouston
This is why it's important to read the underlying study instead of taking the article about the study as gospel. From the study:
Essentially, this "study" asked people if they had "Covid-like symptons" and then tested them from anti-bodies. As we know, there are plenty of people that have Covid-like symptoms that never had covid. This study is very misleading.
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Methods
35?883 households were selected from municipal rolls using two-stage random sampling stratified by province and municipality size, with all residents invited to participate. From April 27 to May 11, 2020, 61?075 participants (75·1% of all contacted individuals within selected households) answered a questionnaire on history of symptoms compatible with COVID-19 and risk factors, received a point-of-care antibody test, and, if agreed, donated a blood sample for additional testing with a chemiluminescent microparticle immunoassay.
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Interpretation
The majority of the Spanish population is seronegative to SARS-CoV-2 infection, even in hotspot areas. Most PCR-confirmed cases have detectable antibodies, but a substantial proportion of people with symptoms compatible with COVID-19 did not have a PCR test and at least a third of infections determined by serology were asymptomatic. These results emphasise the need for maintaining public health measures to avoid a new epidemic wave.
Essentially, this "study" asked people if they had "Covid-like symptons" and then tested them from anti-bodies. As we know, there are plenty of people that have Covid-like symptoms that never had covid. This study is very misleading.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:29 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:27 am to Privateer 2007
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Then why the frick hasn't anyone had it twice?
There's reports of many people that have. They are having a hard time differentiating between having it twice or it laying dormat and heating back up
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:27 am to lake chuck fan
kinda agreed dude. no one truly knows anything about this, not sure if that good or bad news tho. know what I mean?
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:28 am to LSUFanHouston
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antibodies don't last
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just take the damn vaccine shot
Isn't that the point of most vaccines? Developing antibodies.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:28 am to LSUFanHouston
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and when the vaccine comes, take the goddamn shot,
don't tell me what to do
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:29 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Ehh, I'm not interested in taking a rushed and inconclusive "vaccine" for something that isn't going to make me sick
Neither am I. But if I ever want to give my grandparents a hug again, I need to consider getting the shot.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:29 am to LSUFanHouston
I think we should shut Everything down ( economy, civil society, farming, etc ) and live simple lives of quiet sustenance, foraging and cannibalism like our earliest ancestors .
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:30 am to Penrod
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But you are still immune. Almost no doubt about that!
If you don't have anti-bodies, how are you immune?
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:31 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Where? I read an article yesterday where Fauci was saying reinfection will be rare and most likely people wont get sick again. It will just be a virus in remission.
There's reports of many people that have
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:31 am to Privateer 2007
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Then why the frick hasn't anyone had it twice?
How many times does someone get the flu, twice in one year?
Check back next spring.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:32 am to PrivatePublic
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I'm just gonna say what I think: if the virus doesn't hit you hard enough to spike antibodies, it's probably not highly communicable from you.
Maybe one day we fill find out that's true.
Still makes herd immunity a myth.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:32 am to LSUFanHouston
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But if I ever want to give my grandparents a hug again, I need to consider getting the shot.
How do you know? There's going to be no concensus on whether the vaccine actually works. So you're going to blindly get a shot that may or may not work that could have side effects that you may or may not know about. I'll pass on that until I have more conclusive data.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:33 am to tigafan4life
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Where? I read an article yesterday where Fauci was saying reinfection will be rare and most likely people wont get sick again. It will just be a virus in remission.
So now we believe fauci?
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:33 am to LSUFanHouston
Eh, just because antibodies are not detectable on an assay doesnt mean you have none
You will still likely have an enhanced immune response on being exposed again
You will still likely have an enhanced immune response on being exposed again
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:33 am to LSUFanHouston
Herd immunity has been a myth from very early in the pandemic, but the majority of the OT is too ignorant to understand the difference between a fact and opinion.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:34 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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How do you know? There's going to be no concensus on whether the vaccine actually works. So you're going to blindly get a shot that may or may not work that could have side effects that you may or may not know about. I'll pass on that until I have more conclusive data.
This dude is terrified of Covid-19 but is willing to run out and get the first iteration of a rushed vaccine.
You can't make this shite up.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:34 am to Privateer 2007
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Isn't that the point of most vaccines? Developing antibodies.
Well, some of them last a year, some of them longer.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:34 am to LSUFanHouston
I said I got that immunity, ya herd me
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:34 am to BeachDude022
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Herd immunity has been a myth from very early in the pandemic
So was the expected death rate of 2-3%
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