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re: About that herd immunity
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:47 am to Wallywalrus
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:47 am to Wallywalrus
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Asymptomatic people dont need immunity if it doesn't affect them, isn't that basically what immunity is?
No because as an asymptomatic carrier you can still pass the virus. If you are immune you won't pass the disease to others
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:49 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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No because as an asymptomatic carrier you can still pass the virus.
Do you though? I haven't seen a consensus on that.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:49 am to LSUFanHouston
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but if are asymptomatic (or have very mild symptoms), you probably won't have long-lasting antibodies
So why should an asymptomatic person care if they get “it” more than once???? They are asymptomatic so by definition they are not effected.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:50 am to LSUFanHouston
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We are going to just have to find a way to live with this, and when the vaccine comes, take the goddamn shot,
In case you weren't aware, this data means a vaccine is far less likely to be possible.
But please, keep freaking out about the common cold.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:53 am to notsince98
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In case you weren't aware, this data means a vaccine is far less likely to be possible.
False. Every recent article Ive read makes it seem like they are more confident than ever a vaccine is possible
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:53 am to LNCHBOX
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Do you though? I haven't seen a consensus on that.
There's no concensus either way, and it does seem asymptomatic carriers do seem to be less of spreaders than symptomatic carriers, but in the simplest terms, the virus is still living in you if you are asymptomatic, if you are immune you kill the virus so how could you spread it?
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:54 am to MikeBRLA
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So why should an asymptomatic person care if they get “it” more than once???? They are asymptomatic so by definition they are not effected.
If you are in a car wreck and you aren't hurt, but the other driver is killed why would you care?
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:55 am to LNCHBOX
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I haven't seen a consensus on that
Honestly I think the only consensus is that it's called covid-19 and it's caused by SARS-CoV-2. Everything else is unknown for certain.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:55 am to LSUFanHouston
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We are going to just have to find a way to live with this
People with sense have been saying from the beginning...yet here we sit trillions of dollars later, thousands of ruined businesses later, in the same damn boat we were 3 months ago.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:57 am to LSUFanHouston
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how many times does someone get flu twice in season
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check back next spring
Flu mutates year to year.
This apparently doesn't.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:57 am to LSUFanHouston
So apparently most of the antibody tests are looking at IgM as opposed to IgG (which would indicate longer immunity).
If they were testing for IgG they are running a shitty test given how long it lingers even absent a instigating stressor. It should still test positive in these time frames.
If they were testing for IgG they are running a shitty test given how long it lingers even absent a instigating stressor. It should still test positive in these time frames.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:58 am to notsince98
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In case you weren't aware, this data means a vaccine is far less likely to be possible.
Only if they were dependent upon antibodies to make the vaccine, but that's not how it works.
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But please, keep freaking out about the common cold.
Oh I see, you're just dumb.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:00 am to Cosmo
In case you don't know that is code for hey Feds keep giving us more research money.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:02 am to notsince98
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In case you weren't aware, this data means a vaccine is far less likely to be possible.
If case you weren’t aware, this data means literally nothing of the sort.
This just suggests that memory B cells don’t really get involved in the mild/asymptomatic cases. The virus clears before IgG antibodies are made.
That is the literal opposite of how vaccines work, by introducing lingering antigens that activates memory B cells.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:05 am to LSUFanHouston
What about the part where if you have had a cold recently it shows as COVID antibodies?
The testing is still all over the place and should be taken with a grain of salt.
The testing is still all over the place and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:08 am to MikeBRLA
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So why should an asymptomatic person care if they get “it” more than once????
I don't think you understand what asymptomatic means. It simply means you aren't currently showing symptoms. It doesn't mean you can't and won't show symptoms. If you get it a second time, you might not be asymptomatic the second time around.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:08 am to LSUFanHouston
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We are going to just have to find a way to live with this, and when the vaccine comes, take the goddamn shot,
If antibodies don't last, how do we know the vaccine will last any length of time?
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:12 am to stout
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What about the part where if you have had a cold recently it shows as COVID antibodies?
The common cold can be caused by a coronavirus so it's possible with an antibody test that doesn't have a high level of specificity for covid-19. It will not show as covid-19 antibodies though, just as some type of coronavirus.
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The testing is still all over the place and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Yep, which is why it's important to get a legit test like the Abbott test which is as close to 100% sensitivity and specificity to this coronavirus, covid-19.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:13 am to LSUFanHouston
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Those of you screaming for herd immunity, may need to re-think that.
Since most people who test positive seem to have no idea they were ever sick, does it even matter?
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:14 am to LegendInMyMind
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If antibodies don't last, how do we know the vaccine will last any length of time?
Again, I'm not a vaccine maker, but I don't think antibodies are relevant to covid-19 vaccines. They aren't producing an antibody based vaccine.
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