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re: Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show

Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:20 am to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:20 am to
This is the same old tactic and use of information sources that the dems have been using since before the election in 2016. Discredit the information source and not the information. This is getting tiring.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:20 am to
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if Biden wasn't running, would Trump still be looking for this? yes.


You bet. He promise the swamp would be drained, not Joe Biden particularly. I'm thinking many people in DC are having restless sleeps right about now.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57883 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:21 am to
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Big Scrub TX


Jesus Christ scrub. The source is Adam Schiff, Elijah Cummings, and Elliot Engel. Here's the link to the report, since big scrub didn't want us to really read it for ourselves.


LINK

THERE ARE NO TEXTS. This Schiff, yet again, blatantly lying. If there were texts, they would have been released by now.


Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39278 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:21 am to
You fricking idiot dumbass.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
5048 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:27 am to
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Big Scrub TX


Is a grasper of straws.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138993 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:27 am to
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You honestly believe Trump would be going to these lengths, asking multiple countries now, to investigate Biden
He isn't.

Biden just happens to be up to his eyeballs in the wrong place at the wrong time. If Biden's dalliances had been in Indonesia or Brazil instead of Ukraine where the Election Interference narrative started and the swamp is rooted, we'd be hearing nothing about quid-pro-Joe Biden.

Trump is going to these lengths to drain a Democrat infested swamp. Quid-pro-Joe is collateral damage in the effort.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:30 am to
re: Obama administration used meetings to pressure Ukraine to enrich themselves
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:31 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138993 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:31 am to
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Hillary isn't running and Trump would LOVE to find some dirt on her in Ukraine. does anyone doubt that?
Oh, it's coming. . . . in one big Chalupa
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25917 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:47 am to
I'm not going to read this entire thread, but I'm sure someone has already pointed out or quoted this bit...

But why did you fail to quote this part from the article?

quote:

Mr. Sondland responded that he believed Mr. Taylor was “incorrect about President Trump’s intentions.” He added: “The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind” and urged that the two “stop the back and forth by text.”
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21539 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:56 am to
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I'm not going to read this entire thread, but I'm sure someone has already pointed out or quoted this bit...

But why did you fail to quote this part from the article?

quote:
Mr. Sondland responded that he believed Mr. Taylor was “incorrect about President Trump’s intentions.” He added: “The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind” and urged that the two “stop the back and forth by text.”



Also, those text are from September 9
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:02 am to
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Nowhere in that quote do I interpret it to asking about Biden the potential candidate for president in 2020. However, I do surmise the asking of questions on Biden the vice president of the previous admin for any hanky-panky he might be responsible for while holding that office.
This is the distinction the left has trouble contemplating.

I don't think they're having trouble contemplating it, they're avoiding it.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42296 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:04 am to
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potential meeting


So it didn’t actually happen?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:07 am to
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you dont mind the president calling for an investigation against his political rival?


So rich...Did you mind the Dems calling for the Mueller investigation? Do you mind them doing an impeachment inquiry? What’s the difference?
Rudy goes to the Ukraine almost a year ago in efforts to support Trump in the witch hunt against him. The Ukraine gives him dirt on Biden that appears corrupt. Is he supposed to ignore that just because Biden is running? To me, it’s even more important that we have it investigated. And, that’s all he has asked for, an investigation. Take off your bias blinders.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:11 am to
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Nah. I think impeachment is stupid (at least for those hoping to get Trump out.) But I really have been wondering all along what caused Pelosi to switch. She has been VERY against impeachment this whole time.



Have you seen the current version of the Democrat "base"? The active ones have made it clear they want impeachment regardless of it's even feasible.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:21 am to
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Starting to make sense now why Pelosi decided to go forward.


Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:26 am to
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The messages show that U.S. officials coordinated with aides to the Ukrainian president and Rudy Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s private lawyer, on a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into Mr. Biden and the 2016 U.S. election—at the same time as announcing a visit by the Ukrainian president to the White House.



Rudy being involved
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11800 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:27 am to
And what exactly is wrong with asking Ukraine to investigate Hunter and Joe Biden? Joe Biden is already on record for his actions in seeking to withhold $ in exchange for the Ukraine firing the prosecutor.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:28 am to
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Rudy goes to the Ukraine almost a year ago in efforts to support Trump in the witch hunt against him. The Ukraine gives him dirt on Biden that appears corrupt. Is he supposed to ignore that just because Biden is running? To me, it’s even more important that we have it investigated. And, that’s all he has asked for, an investigation. Take off your bias blinders.



Why wait until Biden announces his campaign to ask?
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14229 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:28 am to
The aid had nothing to do with this.

But yea man, it all makes so much sense.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:32 am to
Who would be acceptable in your mind to discuss such an issue with Ukrainian govt officials? Trump's out, Rudy's out, I do already know that much. So who would be acceptable?
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