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Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show

Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:15 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:15 am
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The Trump administration sought to use a potential meeting between the president and his Ukrainian counterpart as leverage to press Kyiv to investigate Joe Biden, newly released text messages showed, as President Trump called on China to also investigate his political rival.

The president’s efforts to persuade Ukraine in a July phone call to investigate Mr. Biden have already set off an impeachment inquiry by House Democrats, who are looking at whether the president abused the power of his office for political gain.

Text messages released by House committees late Thursday revealed that Trump administration officials sought to use a White House meeting between Mr. Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart as leverage to press the Ukrainian government to pursue an investigation into Mr. Biden and other matters. The messages show that U.S. officials coordinated with aides to the Ukrainian president and Rudy Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s private lawyer, on a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into Mr. Biden and the 2016 U.S. election—at the same time as announcing a visit by the Ukrainian president to the White House.

The messages also reveal concerns by a top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine that Mr. Trump was seeking to use a hold on nearly $400 million in U.S. aid to Ukraine—which the president imposed a week before his July call with his Ukrainian counterpart—for political purposes.


Starting to make sense now why Pelosi decided to go forward.

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Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:16 am to
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Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Sho



Ukraine already said they weren't pressured. I won't waste my time reading the rest.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:18 am to
Keep Hope Alive!
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:19 am to
Watch. Everyone will bash and discredit an article from the Wall Street Journal, but Alex Jones or some other nut job tweets any off the wall “breaking news” and they flock to praise it together and how that tweet makes so much sense haha
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:19 am to
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Keep Hope Alive!
Nah. I think impeachment is stupid (at least for those hoping to get Trump out.) But I really have been wondering all along what caused Pelosi to switch. She has been VERY against impeachment this whole time.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:20 am to
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Ukraine already said they weren't pressured
Link?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:20 am to
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Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64368 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:21 am to
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Watch. Everyone will bash and discredit an article from the Wall Street Journal, but Alex Jones or some other nut job tweets any off the wall “breaking news” and they flock to praise it together and how that tweet makes so much sense haha



Ukraine: "We weren't pressured."


Doesnt matter how journalists feel the conversation went in their subjective opinion. You'll just have to swallow the facts aren't in your favor.
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
3404 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:21 am to
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Nah. I think impeachment is stupid (at least for those hoping to get Trump out.) But I really have been wondering all along what caused Pelosi to switch. She has been VERY against impeachment this whole time.


Probably the fact that Barr and Durham seem to be serious
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:24 am to
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Nah. I think impeachment is stupid


If the story is 100% true, he deserves whatever comes his way. I have a hard time believing he would be that stupid though.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:25 am to
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But I really have been wondering all along what caused Pelosi to switch. She has been VERY against impeachment this whole time.


There is not, nor will there ever be a formal impeachment. What Pelosi did was open and investigation and made up the term "impeachment inquiry" to protect her left flank from the insane libtards that make up much of the Dem party. And her efforts blew up spectacularly
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:28 am to
Impeachment inquiry is not made up lol. Look it up dude. It’s the first part of the process.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:30 am to
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Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show




An administration isn't allowed to investigate a past VP who did questionable things while in that position ?

Any half arse lawyer will argue that. Trump is smarter than Democrats think.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:30 am to
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Ukraine: "We weren't pressured." Doesnt matter how journalists feel the conversation went in their subjective opinion. You'll just have to swallow the facts aren't in your favor.


The current president of Ukraine said you saw the call, he didn’t “push me.” We can all read the transcript and see it wasn’t blatant like that. That’s not a revelation.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:32 am to
Nowhere in that quote do I interpret it to asking about Biden the potential candidate for president in 2020. However, I do surmise the asking of questions on Biden the vice president of the previous admin for any hanky-panky he might be responsible for while holding that office.

This is the distinction the left has trouble contemplating.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:35 am to
You honestly believe Trump would be going to these lengths, asking multiple countries now, to investigate Biden, if Biden wasn’t running against him? Or even further, let’s say he was running unopposed, he’d still be pushing this hard to investigate him? Come on man lol
Posted by YogaPants
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:42 am to
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Starting to make sense now why Pelosi decided to go forward.


We're trying to make sense of how unethical your side is
Posted by YogaPants
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:43 am to
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You honestly believe Trump would be going to these lengths, asking multiple countries now, to investigate Biden, if Biden wasn’t running against him


You sound guilty
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21749 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:45 am to
Get fricked bot
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:46 am to
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You honestly believe Trump would be going to these lengths, asking multiple countries now, to investigate Biden, if Biden wasn’t running against him? Or even further, let’s say he was running unopposed, he’d still be pushing this hard to investigate him? Come on man lol


Sure do. Trump hasn't "pushed" anything. He asked a simple question without the pressure you allude to. You guys are the ones who twisted a simple question into a hard interpretation of what that question was. Remember, Obama said some nasty things about Trump that Trump didn't appreciate. I think Trump presently is working his way up the ladder in order to take down Obama. Political "I'll get even with him eventually" scenarios take time. Payback doesn't happen overnight.
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