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re: Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:48 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:48 am to Mickey Goldmill
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You honestly believe Trump would be going to these lengths, asking multiple countries now, to investigate Biden, if Biden wasn’t running against him?
To be quite clear, you disingenuous twit - Biden is not running against Trump. He is running against others in the D primary. Also to be clear, the election is a year away.
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:00 am to bmy
quote:That would be quite a trick since investigation of Biden was announced 5-6 months ago, and election interference was not just investigated, but confirmed, in Ukrainian Court last December.
in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into Mr. Biden and the 2016 U.S. election
Journalism being involved
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:01 am to Rickdaddy4188
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are you talking about the bullshite and debunked conspiracy theory that Obama spied on trump's campaign?
Is this 2017?
ROFLMAO
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:04 am to Big Scrub TX
You'd think you would have learned your lesson by now.
Suppose you enjoy living in a state of perpetual hope of "getting him"
No worries... He won't be president after 2025. You have plenty of time to be hopeful.
Suppose you enjoy living in a state of perpetual hope of "getting him"
No worries... He won't be president after 2025. You have plenty of time to be hopeful.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:06 am to davyjones
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Who would be acceptable in your mind to discuss such an issue with Ukrainian govt officials? Trump's out, Rudy's out, I do already know that much. So who would be acceptable?
DOJ had reportedly already looked into the allegation and declined to open an investigation
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:08 am to NC_Tigah
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That would be quite a trick since investigation of Biden was announced 5-6 months ago, and election interference was not just investigated, but confirmed, in Ukrainian Court last December.
Journalism being involved
Then why did Trump ask about crowdstrike?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:09 am to bmy
It’s over bmy. Start coming to grips with it
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:14 am to genuineLSUtiger
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It’s over bmy. Start coming to grips with it
He's can't. He's completely, totally 100% bought into this. He's invested too much hope to turn back now. He's gotta keep on believing.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:18 am to tiggerthetooth
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Ukraine already said they weren't pressured. I won't waste my time reading the rest.
"Heard from White House -- assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / 'get to the bottom of what happened' in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck!" Volker wrote in the July 25 message.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:19 am to bmy
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DOJ had reportedly already looked into the allegation and declined to open an investigation
Previously declined investigations get opened due to new evidence all the time
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:19 am to bmy
I think you know better than this. I'm going to give you that credit. But let's do one more for the road....Ukranian crimes, committed in Ukraine, DOJ no jurisdiction, Ukrainian govt must handle.
All we can do is ask/request. And that's my question: which American official(s) can do the asking/requesting about potential Biden wrongdoing without drawing all this protest?
All we can do is ask/request. And that's my question: which American official(s) can do the asking/requesting about potential Biden wrongdoing without drawing all this protest?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:19 am to Big Scrub TX
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Potential
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:21 am to Big Scrub TX
This is going nowhere like everything else the Dumbocrats try...
2020 election night is going to be the best melt in the history of the world.
2020 election night is going to be the best melt in the history of the world.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:28 am to bmy
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a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into Mr. Biden and the 2016 U.S. election
quote:What does that have to do with the fact Ukrainian Courts already found Ukraine interfered in the 2016 U.S. election?quote:Then why did Trump ask about crowdstrike?
That would be quite a trick since investigation of Biden was announced 5-6 months ago, and election interference was not just investigated, but confirmed, in Ukrainian Court last December.
The author claimed there was to be "a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into . . . the 2016 U.S. election." That would be a stupid "draft statement", therefore the quote is highly dubious. I've explained why.
Crowdstrike would be a different matter. I did not see the term "Crowdstrike" in the quote you provided though.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:29 am to davyjones
quote:
Ukranian crimes, committed in Ukraine, DOJ no jurisdiction, Ukrainian govt must handle.
All we can do is ask/request. And that's my question: which American official(s) can do the asking/requesting about potential Biden wrongdoing without drawing all this protest?
If we have no jurisdiction then it is inappropriate for any US official to make that request.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:36 am to NC_Tigah
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Crowdstrike would be a different matter. I did not see the term "Crowdstrike" in the quote you provided though.
I'm not sure if you are being obtuse or not. Rudy G and Trump have spoken specifically about the Bidens and Crowdstrike. Trump asked for investigations into both on the call.
So if Crowdstrike 'would be a different matter' as you said.. what would that change for you?
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:36 am to bmy
quote:What request?
inappropriate for any US official to make that request.
Lutsenko made the request last spring.
quote:
Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
By John Solomon
April 1, 2019
Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.
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Between April 2014 and October 2015, more than $3 million was paid out of Burisma accounts to an account linked to Biden’s and Archer’s Rosemont Seneca firm, according to the financial records placed in a federal court file in Manhattan in an unrelated case against Archer.
The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.
Lutsenko said Ukrainian company board members legally can pay themselves for work they do if it benefits the company’s bottom line, but prosecutors never got to determine the merits of the payments to Rosemont because of the way the investigation was shut down.
As for Joe Biden’s intervention in getting Lutsenko’s predecessor fired in the midst of the Burisma investigation, Lutsenko suggested that was a matter to discuss with Attorney General Barr: “Of course, I would be happy to have a conversation with him about this issue.”
LINK
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:36 am to bmy
Why? The root crime occurred there, thus their jurisdiction, however there would be crossover U.S. interests bc if financial crimes were committed in Ukraine by a U.S. politician directly because of their position then that should absolutely draw our interest. If a financial crime is found to have been committed there then that subsequently becomes the basis of a crime to be prosecuted here. Root financial crime there, illegal enrichment type crime while in office here, to be prosecuted here.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:37 am to bmy
Because they found out about the potential corruption this past spring about the same time Biden announced his candidacy. Pretty simple to understand.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:41 am to davyjones
Then we would have jurisdiction. Then the US should formally open an investigation. Ever wonder why the Trump admin is trying to get Ukraine to investigate without formally opening an investigation?
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