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Yay. Another chance to post about the “black problem “

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Ah yes, the soft racism of low expectations. How noble of you KKK democrats.

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Presently they support protecting pedos

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Coming from the party of Anthony Weiner, transgender surgeries, tranny story time, porn in school libraries, and pro-ask kindergartners about their sexual identity.....i think we can classify your posts as irrelevant.

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transferring taxpayer money to anyone Trump directs,

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Like USAID?

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insider trading on government announcements

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Like Pelosi?

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foreign wars

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To prevent future nuclear war, that your party also supported except when Trump actually took action.

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inflation

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It was 9% under Biden and you said NOTHING.

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cutting safety net benefits

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Such as?

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and rigging elections.

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Like in 2020? Sounds like you are an election denier.

I've been watching youtube videos from Bliss cigars. It's mesmerizing. Watched a video from LifebyMikeG where he grew and rolled his own cigars. Also a neat watch.

Plan on smoking a cigar or 2 this weekend. I have a Padron 64 Maduro in my humidor in mind.

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Do you think Massie remaining consistent on his non-interventionist policies was "self sabotage"?

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You are still pretending that Massie didn't have a very public tantrum over the last 2 years about Trump?

SFP, i really don't care if you believe what you believe. In fact, i hope you do. It makes you that more ineffectual in debates. If you continue to let your undeserved hubris permit you from admitting when you are wrong, or even admitting to yourself when the very obvious occurs, then that makes it easier when people poke at you. Enjoy the rest of your internet time today. :cheers:

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This is what the MDS crowd

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The fact that this seems foreign to you (and others) is why this MDS era is so fascinating

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Ah. Well why don't you lay out how your TDS works so we can all understand how MDS works.

Or is this like you yelling "POPULIST" anytime your talking points get shot down? At least you are smart enough to not yell "RACIST", but not that smart.

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For example, Massie being punished for remaining consistent on his non-intervention stance, which used to be the MAGA stance. That was a key factor in why outside parties took aim at him following the 180 from MAGA when they started the neocon shift last year and made the full flip a few months ago.

You can say he "failed" by not changing, but that ignores the fact that his constituents flipped on this specific issue.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... and not once did you say that Massie self sabotaged himself. Not once did you admit that he fricked up by going to battle with Trump. Not once did you imply that he should take any responsibiity for losing.

And that shows me you are not a real man. Men take responsibility for their actions. If Massie wants to do something other than podcast and blame everyone for his mistakes, he needs to own up to why he lost. He didn't lose because he was conservative. He lost because he turned into a petty attention whore that was on full display on twitter. And the fact that his own voter stated this and you still say, "nuh uh, i'm right, everyone else is wrong" is telling.

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Do you think his geographic location somehow makes him less insusceptible to influence than my geographic location does to me?

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I think his reasoned explanation and his personal experience of being a Massie constituent carries more weight than a random from another state saying Massie lost because everyone else changed. At what point, does personal accountability come into play, or is it always someone else's fault why you/he/Massie lost?

Your entire argument is "well all the voters changed" meanwhile ignoring Massie's very public display and meltdown the last 3 years. But, again, it's always someone else's fault why they fail. Never the person that failed...

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The post argues against itself without realizing how.

Voters perceiving him differently shows they changed

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We debated this in the other thread and you are content on going down the same silly path. You still think that it's everyone else's fault but Massie's why he lost.

Here is a post from a poster who voted in that primary.

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To start, I ended up voting for Massie yesterday. I had waffled back and forth, the decision could have been a lot easier if they picked someone that seemed a little less NeoConish than Gallrein, but I probably could have gone either way. I had family and friends that went separated ways as well.

I will say that Massie losing was clearly his own doing. No one worked harder to get him out of office than Thomas Massie. He simply stopped trying to do his job and represent his constituents and work within the framework of our political system to push his ideas and agendas forward. He chose to go on a self-destructive mission, that often times looked to be driven more by personal qualms than any sort of principles.

The optics just simply were not there for him. It appeared he was doing everything in his power to make Trump ineffective, which was not going to fly in a district that overwhelmingly voted for Trump to get his agenda pushed.

This goes back to the classic problem with libertarianism. It’s great at offering critiques of existing policies. But absolutely terrible at coming up with concrete action plans “that will actually work in reality” on how to get their agenda passed.

I argued with a friend last night about the situation. Said friend is totally ate up about the debt clock and how we have to roll it back, etc etc… which I don’t disagree with any of his wishes and goals. However I had to continue to remind him that it is not achievable with the level of immigration and makeup of our demographics and electorate. So until we go back to an electorate that resembles early America, we have to work within the confines of massive debt. There is no other option presently available.

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But it still everyone else's fault, right?

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Cool, now show us who receives the most foreign aid from the US

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I think that proves more that we control Israel rather than Israel controls the US.

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I still say that his little "Vax Scene" Skit was one of the cuckiest things I've ever seen (

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The worst was when he had Jon Stewart on, and Stewart accidentally told the truth about Covid and Colbert was very obviously uncomfortable and pretending like he had no idea the Wuhan Lab for covid existed and was still promoting the bat soup lark.

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You say this without being able to post any policy changes since November 2024, after being asked multiple times.

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I told you why the people voted against him. Other people have. He went against Trump. That is the policy. His fiscal conservatism may not have changed, but that isn't the only think voters look at. It's like when Rand Paul ran against Trump in 2016 primary. And he was jumping up and down behind Trump saying, "but that's not conservative, but that's not conservative". Conservative doesn't mean shite if you lose all the fricking time. Being conservative does you no good if it means Democrats win the election.

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It's almost as if, this whole "he's changed" is in perception only.

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Again, you can't accept that Massie lost his fricking mind, which he did. With his obsessive Epstein bullshite. And his "i'm going to post the names" to only post what, 8 names, 4 of which were completely innocent.

Massie voting with Democrats is why he lost. The people didn't fricking change. They didn't decide to do a 180 and vote Demcrat. They voted for the guy that would vote with Trump. They want the save act passed. They want Trump initiatives passed. They don't want to lose, like Massie did.

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And if that can work on you, why wouldn't it work on a voter in Kentucky?

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Again, it's the voters that all changed, but not so much to not vote for another Republican. Massie had nothing to do with why he lost, it was those tens of thousands of voters that all collectively changed their minds. You see how stupid that sounds. Of course you don't.