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re: Lets focus on what we know for a fact.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/12/25 at 8:59 am to TigerNAtux
Agree.
re: So if Kelly has not been fired nor suspended..
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/12/25 at 8:46 am to LSUFanHouston
I will add this...
How does LSU offer $25 Million and then $30 Million as a buyout if they were firing for cause?
How does LSU offer $25 Million and then $30 Million as a buyout if they were firing for cause?
re: Lets focus on what we know for a fact.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/12/25 at 8:29 am to GrizzlyWintergreen
What we know about Kiffin is this...
1) He consistently has an offense in the Top 20, more often Top 10 and can sniff the Top 5. He has done this with less talent (depth) than at least 15 other schools as evidenced by 247 Talent Composite.
2)His stop at Ole Miss is far better than his previous Head Coaching gigs. He is trending up.
3)He seems to have matured some, but still takes some wacky chances that one would hope is because he knows there is a talent disparity against some teams and he needs to roll the dice.
4)His defenses don't play at the level of his offenses.
5)He has done all of this at Ole Miss that will never have the overall depth that you see at Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, LSU, Florida, Texas, Oregon...
6)He hasn't gotten over the hump at Ole Miss. The question that NO ONE knows the answer to is why. Is it his coaching, or is it the fact that he has never had a roster with as much talent (depth) as the teams listed above?
7)Timing....They should make the playoffs and there is a good chance they win the first game. That would have him still playing when the portal opens. How can LSU wait that long when the entire world will know our target and Kiffin would be facing heat from his own fan base in the middle of a playoff run. The Kiffin of old would bolt in a minute. The one today is not likely to do that.
****What we don't know, but is speculated, is whether he wants to leave Ole Miss and if LSU is where he would want to be.
I believe he would kill it here at LSU. The talent depth he could accumulate with the LSU Brand and recruiting advantages would far surpass what he can do overall at Ole Miss. Yes, he can get some great players at Ole Miss, but he would get much more at LSU. You need depth to win a championship. LSU offers a much better chance has history has shown at building a championship roster.
He knows this. LSU knows this.
Is he content with an occasional playoff birth or does he want to join the ranks of coaches that have a Natty? Does timing work out?
1) He consistently has an offense in the Top 20, more often Top 10 and can sniff the Top 5. He has done this with less talent (depth) than at least 15 other schools as evidenced by 247 Talent Composite.
2)His stop at Ole Miss is far better than his previous Head Coaching gigs. He is trending up.
3)He seems to have matured some, but still takes some wacky chances that one would hope is because he knows there is a talent disparity against some teams and he needs to roll the dice.
4)His defenses don't play at the level of his offenses.
5)He has done all of this at Ole Miss that will never have the overall depth that you see at Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, LSU, Florida, Texas, Oregon...
6)He hasn't gotten over the hump at Ole Miss. The question that NO ONE knows the answer to is why. Is it his coaching, or is it the fact that he has never had a roster with as much talent (depth) as the teams listed above?
7)Timing....They should make the playoffs and there is a good chance they win the first game. That would have him still playing when the portal opens. How can LSU wait that long when the entire world will know our target and Kiffin would be facing heat from his own fan base in the middle of a playoff run. The Kiffin of old would bolt in a minute. The one today is not likely to do that.
****What we don't know, but is speculated, is whether he wants to leave Ole Miss and if LSU is where he would want to be.
I believe he would kill it here at LSU. The talent depth he could accumulate with the LSU Brand and recruiting advantages would far surpass what he can do overall at Ole Miss. Yes, he can get some great players at Ole Miss, but he would get much more at LSU. You need depth to win a championship. LSU offers a much better chance has history has shown at building a championship roster.
He knows this. LSU knows this.
Is he content with an occasional playoff birth or does he want to join the ranks of coaches that have a Natty? Does timing work out?
re: Josh Pate: I can’t tell you how the LSU search is going because it’s not going…
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 9:25 pm to finchmeister08
None if this BS will end up stopping us from getting who we want.
Kiffin being in the playoffs might. But those coaches have agents that will explain how all that is happening is posturing. It will not stop a coach that wants to come to LSU from coming.
Kiffin being in the playoffs might. But those coaches have agents that will explain how all that is happening is posturing. It will not stop a coach that wants to come to LSU from coming.
re: Hear me out, china and saban.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 9:19 pm to BrianKellysRealtor
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China just developed a drug they say can let a person live to 150 years old.
Awesome. Let’s extend BK’s buyout till he turns 150 with more manageable payments.
re: Don’t sweat the BK lawsuit and all the noise, it most likely gets settled
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 8:24 pm to Lee Chatelain
quote:
Saban is not out.
Believe what ya want.
re: Don’t sweat the BK lawsuit and all the noise, it most likely gets settled
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 7:07 pm to Lgrnwd
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Saban, though not likely, is still in play, believe it or not.
Nope. Saban is out. We shot or shot.
re: What is Kelly hiding?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 5:25 pm to Adam Banks
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And LSU maintains he has not been formally fired yet so cause is on the table.
Good luck with that when your AD releases a statement saying they have let him go, with the boards blessing and then the Board held a press conference to discuss it.
And with that, multiple LSU admins were in the meeting when Woodward fired him.
Your theory may be what LSU plays but it’s a losing one.
re: No Gin & Tonics today…. I can’t wrap my head around the “terminated with cause” stuff.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 5:22 pm to GeauxBirds
The contract states that they must notify him what the cause is and he’s allowed time to rebut it,
Looks like LSU has not officially done that.
Looks like LSU has not officially done that.
re: What is Kelly hiding?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 5:09 pm to Adam Banks
The 7 day window starts “IF” he was fired for cause, not just if he was fired.
Thats where your entire theory collapses
Thats where your entire theory collapses
re: What is Kelly hiding?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 3:20 pm to Adam Banks
:banghead:
The contract calls for a firing with cause to be given to Kelly and then he would have 7 days to cure it.
Nothing he did would affect that. It was LSU's responsibility to notify him of cause.
And, if they were firing him for cause, there would be no negotiations as the buyout would be null and void.
The contract calls for a firing with cause to be given to Kelly and then he would have 7 days to cure it.
Nothing he did would affect that. It was LSU's responsibility to notify him of cause.
And, if they were firing him for cause, there would be no negotiations as the buyout would be null and void.
re: This all about the threat of depositions of witness who will paint BK in a very poor light
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 3:06 pm to jmaclsu
Isn't his lawsuit just asking for LSU to decide if they will be firing him for cause or not? And, if that violates the contract?
None of this other stuff even matters at this point.
None of this other stuff even matters at this point.
re: Coach O has more integrity than Brian kelly
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 2:55 pm to 756
Ed was offered full buyout the day is was fired. There was nothing for him to fight for.
He fought his ex-wife in court over money. You think he would not have fought LSU if they didn't pay him?
He fought his ex-wife in court over money. You think he would not have fought LSU if they didn't pay him?
re: Lawsuit is NOT about a breach of contract and NOT for damages (money)
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 2:50 pm to OceanMan
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Its all just speculation.
Yeah, I think it is BS.
The lawsuit names several people that were in the meeting on LSU's side with Kelly. So, if this indeed happened, it should have been used the day he was fired if they feel it deems cause to fire.
Will those people testify that Kelly was insubordinate? Doubtful.
re: Lawsuit is NOT about a breach of contract and NOT for damages (money)
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 2:24 pm to Havoc
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I wonder if LSU is possibly using Kelly’s refusal to fire Sloane as a ground for firing for cause?
Can someone link media reports to this? It is constantly stated here but I have yet to find a credible media outlet to report that Kelly refused to fire Sloan.
In fact, the only think I find is the opposite, he wanted Sloane and Davis fired and Woodward fought for Davis to stay.
re: Consulting with Mr. Chad Geepeetee...
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 2:15 pm to ActusHumanus
Where is the confirmed reporting, not Tigerdroppings rumors, that Kelly refused to fire Sloan?
The only reports I have read were that Kelly wanted to fire Davis as well and was told no.
I have yet to see a credible media report that Kelly refused to fire someone.
The only reports I have read were that Kelly wanted to fire Davis as well and was told no.
I have yet to see a credible media report that Kelly refused to fire someone.
re: I’m shocked Kelly’s attorney thinks his client didn’t do anything wrong and LSU owes him.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 12:58 pm to bayouboo
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BK has conditions unfavorable to him as well.
Yes, but not $23 million worth of unfavorable conditions. (at least that is his position right now) If buyout is $53 million and LSU offered $30 million, which is what the lawsuit alleges.
BK is an arse, but not stupid. I bet he gets close to $40 million when the dust settles.
re: I’m shocked Kelly’s attorney thinks his client didn’t do anything wrong and LSU owes him.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 12:42 pm to JPLSU1981
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I disagree. The $800k/mo til 2031 was smart. It’s the reason Kelly is scrambling, cause he wants the cash now. LSU has all the cards
Uhh, reread what you wrote and use some critical thinking skills....
Kelly is willing to negotiate to get a lump sum that is much closer to his contract that what has been reported. That is why the lawsuit was filed.
Kelly can just say, "Pay me $800k/mth." Don't throw me in that Briar patch!
Or, he can use this lawsuit as leverage to get a much higher negotiated buyout than whatever LSU has offered so far.
BK has lots of leverage here. The starting point is the contract and he can just fall back on it.
re: Why wouldn’t Verge play hardball with LSU right now?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 12:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Why wouldn’t Verge
Because he is smarter than that.
re: I’m shocked Kelly’s attorney thinks his client didn’t do anything wrong and LSU owes him.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10 on 11/11/25 at 12:23 pm to dos crystal
LSU isn’t going to file any answer with any sort of dirt. They screwed up with the process. Their best bet is to get a number that will make Kelly go away asap. That’s what both sides want.
LSU agreed to stupid terms. They aren’t getting out of this paying roughly half what is owed.
LSU agreed to stupid terms. They aren’t getting out of this paying roughly half what is owed.
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