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re: Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show

Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:15 am to
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13473 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:15 am to
Ukraines President had a press conference with Trump saying he wasn’t pressured it was funny as shite. After he says it the Don goes that means no pressure from
Us.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 6:16 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:25 am to
quote:

Yeah, OP and the Democratic conveniently left of that text reply, lol, that Trump absolutely didn’t want any Quid Pro Quo.....

They hide it way down at the bottom OR leave it on the cutting room floor along with the part about "The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelenskiy promised during his campaign.”

Oh, and the other thing about the fella who texted back with the "I think it's crazy to withhold aid for help with a political campaign"....guy simply interjected his own mistaken interpretation of the situation. Big brain fart of an incorrect assumption.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4331 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:35 am to
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Starting to make sense now why Pelosi decided to go forward.


Go forward with what? She is too chicken shite to put it to a full vote.
Posted by landmanner
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
3488 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:42 am to
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You honestly believe Trump would be going to these lengths, asking multiple countries now, to investigate Biden, if Biden wasn’t running against him


He promised to drain the swamp. Is Elijah Cummings running for president?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56552 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:44 am to
Last night Chris Como and Andrew mccabe were arguing that you don't have to commit a crime to be impeached or be successful committing that crime...

In other words it's about intent....

Where is Robert mueller when you need him?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477175 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:47 am to
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You honestly believe Trump would be going to these lengths, asking multiple countries now, to investigate Biden, if Biden wasn’t running against him?

yes

because if they can link Biden to the muck, then Obama gets dragged in and that's the goose that lays the golden egg

remember, this is the admin who may have used fraud to spy on Trump. proving the inner circle of that admin to be nefarious goes a LONG way in the political (not personal) narrative of Trump
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79993 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:57 am to
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He added: “The Pres­i­dent has been crys­tal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind”


I missed it, but I can skim it and see this thread went well for the OP.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47613 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:59 am to
I just read that whole piece and it looks like this Taylor guy misinterpreted something and got quickly set straight.

Sound about right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477175 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:04 am to
yeah the texts appear to clearly state no quid pro quo but that is selectively edited out on the damning stories and in place of those texts we get "parody" and interpretation. supposedly the closed door meeting (deposition?) yesterday with the ambassador went REALLY bad for DEMs and REALLY well for Trump, and this may be dead

i have a feeling Pelosi is letting this go on to embarrass those who pushed the impeachment inquiry on her so she can shore up her power
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:09 am to
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what a bunch of dumbasses. so what if our leader pressured other countries?
So, like he's not supposed to pressure Russia, Iran, Iraq, NK, China? Guess we better drop those sanctions then.



Crimes are to be investigated. How many Trumps are on the boards of Ukrainian, Chinese, or Iraqi corporations? How many of Trumps kids are business partners with Whitey Bulgers' mob family? How many of Trumps kids have a cocaine habit and screw their sister-in-laws?

How many Trump kids have zero qualifications but get paid millions just to be listed as board members on boards that conduct business in a language they do not speak? You think Hunter speaks Russian and Chinese?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95664 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:09 am to
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i have a feeling Pelosi is letting this go on to embarrass those who pushed the impeachment inquiry on her so she can shore up her power


They're (the Dem establishment) scrambling to try to find folks to run against Omar and AOC next year. It may be a fools errand, but I'm happy to see internal divisions starting to border on the extreme
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:10 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477175 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:12 am to
oh i hope. it will be GLORIOUS
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139001 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:13 am to
quote:

I just read that whole piece and it looks like this Taylor guy misinterpreted something and got quickly set straight.

Sound about right?
Yes. Doubt he'd jump to that conclusion without a catalyst though. Taylor was likely fed deliberate misconstruction by an anti-Trumper as to Trump's intent.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61447 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:13 am to
Texts say presidents wanted to make sure no quid pro quo too
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:13 am to
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because if they can link Biden to the muck, then Obama gets dragged in and that's the goose that lays the golden egg


Boom. My same response in different words at the bottom of page one. This is about Obama, the big fish. Notice how Obama hasn't uttered a peep about all this when his right hand man Biden is sinking like a one egg pudding? There's a reason for that.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28170 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:15 am to
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Watch. Everyone will bash and discredit an article from the Wall Street Journal


What was their track on Russiagate?
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2691 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:15 am to
Do you even treaty on mutual legal assistance bro?
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
6341 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:15 am to
If Biden did nothing wrong, why would he even be worried about an investigation?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477175 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Boom. My same response in different words at the bottom of page one. This is about Obama, the big fish. Notice how Obama hasn't uttered a peep about all this when his right hand man Biden is sinking like a one egg pudding? There's a reason for that.

here is a better way to put it

if Biden wasn't running, would Trump still be looking for this? yes. that simple answer disproves the whole "personal" narrative

Hillary isn't running and Trump would LOVE to find some dirt on her in Ukraine. does anyone doubt that?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29729 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:16 am to
The texts reference 2016, but Biden is never mentioned.

One text clearly states Trump wants NO quid pro quo.

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