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re: That was fast: California Bar Complaint Already Filed Against New Press Secretary

Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:59 pm to
depends on the state.

In my state, you can't disclose it publicly.
Posted by lionward2014
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Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:00 pm to
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Is she a trained attorney or not?


Anyone who uses the phrase "trained attorney" either went to some Tier 4 school or isn't in the legal field. 99.9% of attorneys will tell you we get almost no real "training" in law school.

Even taking your argument in arguendo, that fits squarely in the context of misleading about your qualification to practice law, and if it was to further a pecuniary interest, is a violation of the ethics rules and potential criminal statutes.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:01 pm to
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You really are struggling in avoid the fact that Zacharia lied about being an attorney and made the President look foolish for describing her as an attorney in bragging on her qualifications.

Is she a "PARTIALLY licensed attorney?"

Here's what you posted to show that she WAS an attorney in crowing response to Decatur...to the claps of the arrayed Seals. Do you stand by it?


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White House Press Secretary Katie Zacharia is a trained attorney


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Facts aren't left or right. They are facts regardless if someone is left or right leaning. As I have said, I'm a conservative who is glad Trump is president. That doesn't mean it's healthy to go along with the bullshite that comes out of the Administration because of Trump's malignant narcissism.

Here, he saw a pretty woman who was incredibly loyal to him. The husband/president slip was telling. Trump values looks and loyalty over competence. This time it bit him in the arse. Why pretend otherwise? It makes you seem reality averse.


So, Matt here likes to create threads about how he argues to get to the truth of the matter and how he "enjoys being shown to be wrong", but after making this insulting post, refuses to address what is actually wrong with the post he has complained about twice now.

I ask again, "Mr. Attorney Man", do you understand the difference between someone calling themselves a "trained attorney" and "an attorney?"

Do you stand behind your criticism of my post that you keep bringing up?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
12984 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:02 pm to
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his attempt to draw some sort of weird gotcha parallel was goofy at best.


Mine? Mike Rogers pointed out correctly that Dr. El-Sayed was not a "doctor" in the sense of being a practicing physician because he wasn't licensed to practice medicine.

The same is true here. Having a legal degree doesn't make you a lawyer. You have to be licensed.
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:03 pm to
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I heard a lawyer in front of a 5th Circuit panel refer to himself as 'Dr. Smith." One of the judges interrupted him to ask, "I'm sorry...do you have a MD or a PhD in addition to a JD?" The lawyer said "no.":)

I recently saw a billboard for a "doctor lawyer" on Hwy 182 driving in to New Iberia. I just looked for a photo on the web, but couldn't find anything.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25150 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:04 pm to
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Is Zacharia a lawyer just because she went to law school?


She is schooled in the law but is not interested in personal injury law. She can say she has a JD.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:05 pm to
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I recently saw a billboard for a "doctor lawyer" on Hwy 182 driving in to New Iberia. I just looked for a photo on the web, but couldn't find anything.


There's at least one guy in Baton Rouge who refers to himself as this, but I didn't think he was on any billboards.

Maybe he has competition over there.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
45139 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:05 pm to
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Anyone who uses the phrase "trained attorney" either went to some Tier 4 school or isn't in the legal field. 99.9% of attorneys will tell you we get almost no real "training" in law school.



Matt brought that post in from another thread where he also bitched about it's accuracy. Do you see anything inaccurate with it?

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Even taking your argument in arguendo, that fits squarely in the context of misleading about your qualification to practice law, and if it was to further a pecuniary interest, is a violation of the ethics rules and potential criminal statutes.


It's standard practice in journalism, politics, corporate compliance, and media consulting. Bitch about it all you want, but as your fellow "attorney" says, facts are facts.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
12984 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:19 pm to
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OMG wait until ivory sees mean texts.


What are you smoking? When have you ever known me to be influenced by something like that?
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
60775 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Just to test: is Dr. El-Sayed a doctor just because he has a medical degree?


No. He's a doctor just because he has a doctorate.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31511 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:21 pm to
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There is nothing inaccurate in what you quoted. As an "attorney" yourself you surely know the difference between someone saying they are a "trained attorney" and "an attorney", right?



Now deal with this part:

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She has worked with conservative legal and political entities, including serving as legal counsel for Fix California
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65423 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:24 pm to
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As an "attorney" yourself you surely know the difference between someone saying they are a "trained attorney" and "an attorney", right?


What’s the difference? Honestly, if someone told me that they were a trained attorney, I’d ask them what they meant by that.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4704 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:26 pm to
It's not a thing. False comparison. She studied law. Doesn't make her an attorney.

Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:28 pm to
What state?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:31 pm to
It’s a misdemeanor from what I’ve read.

Pay the fine and move on.
Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
Member since Nov 2025
2529 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:31 pm to
The left is disgusting. What else is new?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
14012 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:37 pm to
Oh. So that’s why California is involved.

Trump is going to have to pardon her on day 1…

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
12984 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:43 pm to
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It’s a misdemeanor from what I’ve read.
Pay the fine and move on.


The "holding oneself out as being licensed to practice law" IS a misdemeanor in California, but it calls for a maximum of one year in jail in addition to a $1,000 fine.

For California, PARTICULARLY the Bar Association (which is VERY leftist), the process would be the punishment.

FWIW, the
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31511 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:43 pm to
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Oh. So that’s why California is involved.


She is a CA resident and apparently made claims she worked as general counsel for a CA entity.

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Trump is going to have to pardon her on day 1…


That isn't how this works.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
14012 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:44 pm to
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That isn't how this works.


That was a joke…

And it would be funny, no?
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