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re: That was fast: California Bar Complaint Already Filed Against New Press Secretary
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:46 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:46 pm to IvoryBillMatt
You are so obsessed with this chick 
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:47 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Just to test: is Dr. El-Sayed a doctor just because he has a medical degree?
Of course. He's just not a licensed physician.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:49 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Just to test: is Dr. El-Sayed a doctor just because he has a medical degree?
Was the degree conferred?
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:49 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Of course. He's just not a licensed physician
Is Zacharia a lawyer just because she went to law school?
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:49 pm to TBoy
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She violated California law if the descriptions in the Bar Complaint are accurate. However, she only faces a misdemeanor and not the two years in the slammer that she could get in Louisiana.
Trump will pardon her anyway.
Wouldn't that be a STATE crime not a FEDERAL crime douche.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:50 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Was the degree conferred?
Yes. In fact he's a double degreed doctor.
MD and PhD from Columbia.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:50 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Is Zacharia a lawyer just because she went to law school?
That's a different question. It appears she graduated law school, though, so she's certainly a JD, if so.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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Is the claim that she graduated from law school but didn't pass the bar?
If so, i don't know what she said that is actionable. She's a lawyer.
The lawyer vs. attorney distinction that people try to argue doesn't hold any real world weight. I had a law clerk get a letter from the bar of the state she was applying for admission in because her Instagram bio had "lawyer" in it after she graduated law school but before passing the bar.
Zacharia in numerous occasions online, in print, and on TV called herself an attorney and alluded to giving legal advice or being qualified to.
Not sure what the California bar has the authority to do as for as civil penalties, but it seems that she pretty clearly violated the rules against holding herself out as an attorney when she wasn't.
That said, her and her husband's ties to China are a lot more concerning than any of this trivial dispute.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:51 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Is Zacharia a lawyer just because she went to law school?
Is she a trained attorney or not? You accused me of being "reality averse." I'm still waiting for you to point out what you seemed so certain was wrong in the post of mine you have erroneously complained about twice now.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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Not legally, in almost every state.
It really depends on the context. While the terms are used interchangeably, the distinction is/was that a lawyer is someone who has been trained in the law, for example a graduate from a law school, while an attorney/attorney-at-law is someone who is licensed to practice the law.
Semantically, and in regards to the First Amendment, it seems fair to make the distinction. In terms of legal scrutiny . . . who knows (especially in California).
It will be entertaining to see them take this up and try to punish her while letting all sorts of criminals avoid punishment (in terms of the criminal justice system).
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Not sure what the California bar has the authority to do as for as civil penalties, but it seems that she pretty clearly violated the rules against holding herself out as an attorney when she wasn't.
I think most state bars only have power over their professional areas. A quick search seems to limit the CA state bar to reprimands, suspensions, and disbarments. That explains why there is the references to the CA Business and Professional Code.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:53 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Is Zacharia a lawyer just because she went to law school?
No but she could call herself "doctor of law."
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:53 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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That's a different question. It appears she graduated law school, though, so she's certainly a JD, if so.
Why is it different? In both cases, physician and lawyer, you have to be licensed by a state before you can practice your profession.
In both cases, the academic degree is insufficient to confer professional privileges.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:54 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Look at Corky go again today!
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:54 pm to prplhze2000
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Bar complaints are supposed to be secret until adjudicated.
Shhhhhhh
Don't be gotchaing
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:55 pm to SDVTiger
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You are so obsessed with this chick
Could it be that people want the truth? Something you know nothing about being a Trump sycophant?
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:55 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Why is it different?
Because there are innumerable people who hold themselves out as "doctors" (there's even a couple of JDs I know of in my fair state who do so), without being licensed physicians.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:56 pm to Pax Regis
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This. I’m beginning to suspect this lady graduated from law school but never passed a bar. In which case they may very well have a point. She needs to be careful about how she presents herself to the public.
If she really didn't pass a bar and held a position with the title "General Counsel," then this complaint could be very bad for her. California will jail you for holding oneself out to be an attorney. It will be worse if they subpoena the non-profit Fix California and communication is discovered that she represented herself as an attorney or actually performed tasks only an attorney can perform.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:57 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Because there are innumerable people who hold themselves out as "doctors" (there's even a couple of JDs I know of in my fair state who do so), without being licensed physicians.
PhD confers the title of "doctor" as well. That particular moniker is not reserved solely for medical doctors, podiatrists and osteopaths.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:58 pm to TBoy
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"doctor of law."
I heard a lawyer in front of a 5th Circuit panel refer to himself as 'Dr. Smith." One of the judges interrupted him to ask, "I'm sorry...do you have a MD or a PhD in addition to a JD?" The lawyer said "no.":)
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:58 pm to TBoy
Of course, which is why his attempt to draw some sort of weird gotcha parallel was goofy at best.
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