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not intellectually consistent, no attempts made at good faith arguments, which is no surprise here.


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Cry about it.



Exactly
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Am I the retard?



If you seriously cannot see the hypocrisy in denouncing polls favoring Dems as fake and inaccurate and propping up polls favoring Republicans as true and evidence of support, then yes. Yes, you are the retard.
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I dont agree its too far because he is referring to Islamic radical terrorists as the civilization.


Oh yeah did he call you before he posted it? Nice cope interpretation
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Why do y’all come back with this so often?


Is this a real fricking question?

Much of this board's populace ascribes to the 'silent majority' theory and is therefore distrustful of any polling. Plus the 2016 election result contradicting polls. I read people's posts of lying to pollsters on purpose to try and screw up results.

The hypocrisy is blatant when the same folks post about polls showing good results/improvements for Rs vs Ds... it's not intellectually consistent, no attempts made at good faith arguments, which is no surprise here.
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Agreed. The low IQ crowd doesn’t understand the strategy.



This is the same thinking women use, fake a pregnancy to keep the relationship together... still falls apart in the end.
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Of course he’s said the same thing at least 2-3 times before.



This should make it clear.

Mar 3: "We won the war."

Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."

Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."

Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."

Mar 13: "We won the war."

Mar 14: "Please help us."

Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."

Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."

Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."

Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."

Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip -step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz"

Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."

Mar 21: "We don't use it, we don't need to open it."

Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours." "Iran is Dead"

Mar 23: "We are giving them more time."

Mar 24: "The war is nearing its end."

Mar 25: "We are still negotiating."

Mar 26: "Iran is begging for peace. They gave us a gift. We will give them more time."

Mar 27: "Talks with iran are going very well"

Mar 28: "War will be over soon"

Mar 29: "Maybe we take Kharg island, maybe we dont"

Mar 30: "Open the Strait or we will obliterate all energy infrastructure and oil wells"

Mar 31: "We dont need the strait, we got plenty of oil. Get it yourself UK."

Apr 1: "War will be over in two to three weeks"

Apr 4: "Iran has 48 hours or I'll reign down hell"

Apr 5: "Praise be to Allah! Open the fricking strait!"
I mean, it's estimated that 90% of Iran's oil goes to China. The odds are good that none of that oil is heading to the US.

Honestly, it's besides the point where it's going; the point is Iran has established control of the strait and is receiving cash for transit of goods.
The guy could barely stay awake in his cabinet meeting today but this commenter will convince himself it's because he's working so hard to make some crazy deal and Iran is playing right into his hands...

The rose tinted glasses are screwed into some skulls around here for sure.
I almost typed it all out again, but this one thread fully confirms FL Tech drinks DT's bathwater, let alone koolaid haha

Free oil bro!! How could you be mad at that!
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Is pessimism a symptom of TDS or did you have that before?



Ah nice, I'll let you know why celebrating this is even dumber. This "gift" is nothing more than a power play by Iran. "We control the strait" "We deigned to give you this 'gift' since you're whining about the price of oil" "De facto control is ours since you've accepted this gift"

They played ol 47 like a fiddle.

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has nothing to do with the money it has to do with what he said was right and it wasn't made up....there is a bigger picture here.



This is some serious cope. The gift to us supposedly, is allowing a pakistani outfit to ship oil to a different country?

And not continually, just one day? That's not going to make the slightest difference in the market?

I suppose it's better that something is getting through than nothing, but Iran didn't really give us shite ha
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Seems more like a gift for Pakistan.



India or China probably. They receive most of that oil. Tankers were flagged Pakistani, but that doesn't mean the oil was going there.
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I am going to go out on a limb and predict you won't see this covered very much on CNN...they are still questioning if there have been any talks with Iran



If they cover it at all it'll be to let you know what a pittance that actually is. $2b seems like a lot of money, and it is, but compared to what's at stake it's nothing. It's one day's worth of traffic through Hormuz.
They should just give him some gold-plated "Mullah for life" trophy like everyone else has done... plenty of folks from FIFA to Amazon to Mamdani know how to get in Trump's head. He likes shiny gold things that make him feel special.
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I don't understand how Iran can completely regulate passage.



Threat of tanker destruction > No insurance on tankers > No tankers making passage.

Also they've laid mines. They're not actually controlling it by ship but the threat of violence creates the control in effect.
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He just doesn’t want to come out and blame Trump directly.


No, he wants to speak out of both sides of his mouth. He muttered some BS and immediately contradicted himself.


You end up with a world in which strategic trust has dropped. Everyone has to assume the worst. You are more likely to assign nefarious motives towards others, even when in fact, they are just trying to take precautions and engage. So just trying to take the world as it is, rather than trying to assign blame or to use pejorative adjectives.
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What’s the scale here? Millions? Hundreds of millions? You don’t noticeably move the oil market on your own unless you’re Elon, and that’s too easy to track



800 million
"Strait of Hormuz is safe to use"

"US is dealing with it"

"Don't worry about it"

"We will escort ships"

"We can't escort ships"

"Somebody should help"

"NATO should help"

"WHY WON'T YOU HELP, COWARDS?"

"We don't even need the Strait"

"If you don't keep the Strait open we will bomb the shite out of you."