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re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 6:15 pm to
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and are way cheaper than the alternate/red light based surveillance that LEO’s WILL use alternatively.


You can attack ALL of those systems in the budget.

This is an area where the people could really be making hay if they really cared.

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 3:12 pm to
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But the claim you lose your 4th amendment right when you leave your house is straight up bullshite.


If you think that that is what I claim, you are halucinating.

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Washington was not under threat militarily.....they were being bled by Grant and Sherman.....New York wasn't under threat, Philadelphia was not under threat and Chicago was not under threat.


In the thread about the constitutionality of designating Islam as a political movement, some took offense to my suggestion that all rules tend to get thrown out in an existential crisis.

But they do, and if Washington had been under threat at that time or in 1944, we probably would have suspended the rules. We certainly did when putting citizens of Japanese origin in concentration camps.

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 2:58 pm to
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Where did I say that is all it does?

Guess what? The external, publicly apparently appearance of you and your vehicle are also entirely public and you have zero expectation of privacy for them on a public thoroughfare.



False. Police aren't allowed to pull you over without cause.


Your answer is not a response to his statement.

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Are you saying individuals' Ring cameras are linked to police departments?


I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me.

When you click 'agree' to the Terms of Service of the Ring camera, you just may have given the vendor the right to share the information with the government.

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 2:33 pm to
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So then flock provides no use and is a waste of tax money.


This is the better frame to move against it.

The privacy right argument in public spaces is weak.

But as a budget item it could be eliminated if the public will votes in the right people to do it.

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 2:22 pm to
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You have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public.


quite literally constitutional law
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What about cutting taxes for rich folk


That wouldn't put much of a dent.

Where they would likely go, especially if the communists DSA get in power, is to the $47 trillion in retirement accounts of ordinary Americans.

You would quickly see ordinary middle class people suddenly be classified as "rich folk".

re: 5750 days

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 10:22 am to

TAMU lost several years of opportunities.

It seems that that should be an asterisk here, at the very least.

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 10:11 am to
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I'm sure our Founding Fathers would lean more that we do have a right to privacy in public over those other 3.


When you put your face out in public, you are waiving your right to keep it private and being seen by anyone.

Except of course if you are voting, then you have the right not to be identified.

Is this an admission that half his people don't want to keep the war going?
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Is it constitutional to use private companies to go around the constitution?


No. But is that what is happening here?


Because the under the Constitution we have no right of privacy out in public.



re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 8:39 am to
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How does a privately owned company get allowed to install items in servitudes?


If it's a public right of way the gov that owns it can give permission.

If it is a utility easement, the utility might give permission (or sell you permission).

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 8:34 am to
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Will you give me control of those cameras?


No. I won't give anything.


But I might sell some data if the price is right.

re: Why are you against flock?

Posted by TrueTiger on 8/23/26 at 6:04 am to
Aren't they private owned?

Just like the cameras on my house?
this one hasn't been updated, so by now Lady Liberty is fully imprisoned.