IvoryBillMatt

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All relying on the tard nyt analysis that ivory fell for.

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The NYT didn't say anything THIS stupid:)

They just showed that the agent wasn't in the path of the vehicle when he fired the three shots.

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Its ok. Seethe alittle more

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What am I seething about?

I think it's a justified shooting. Based on the bogus Chauvin prosecution, however, I think the agent could have trouble in a Minnesota prosecution of him.

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JimEverett
Ivorybullshitartists says no way.

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Jbird, I haven't known you to lie so much. I have only said that ICE agents cannot arrest American citizens for STATE offenses.

I respect Jim. If he thinks I'm reading the statute wrong, I am all ears.

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Here's something you can learn. Don't allow the narration from a liar nytimes retard of a video (that illuminates the exact opposite of the retards narration ) impact your perspective.

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I wasn't in the least influenced by the NYT commentary. I just thought (like cellphone video from AlphaNews) that it added many details.

Here's how I introduced the video:

Most of us agree that:
- the Dems are responsible for the illegal alien crisis
- the surge of ICE is Trump fulfilling the mandate given to him by the American people
-Renee Good was in the wrong: she was obstructing federal agents in the performance of their official duties; she disobeyed a lawful command to exit her vehicle; and, she unlawfully attempted to flee with her vehicle initially pointed at the ICE agent who shot her
-Good, and only Good (maybe with an assist from propagandists), was responsible for her own death
-Good's shameful and dangerous lack of respect for the law and for law enforcement was encouraged by the Left's hateful lies
-the ICE agent who shot her was justified because he reasonably feared for his life

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This persona is done. Log out in ignominy. Start a new one

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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It's a simple question: can an ICE agent arrest an American citizen for a state offense?

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I do not think she 'tried to run him over' at all.

BUT she didn't care if she hit him either - she was just trying evade arrest, which is a crime itself.

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After watching it over and over, I think that's the best conclusion. Sorry for being contrarian. I was grumpy because we were told initially that Good had attacked multiple agents by trying to ram them while they were digging a vehicle out of the snow.

As I have said over and over, I thought it was a justified shooting because the agent reasonably feared for his life.

The pesky questions about whether the order to get out of the car was lawful related to the issue of whether the agent would succeed in evading Minnesota prosecution. When trying to detain Good, was the shooting agent involved in one of his duties as a federal officer?

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Arguing a federal agent didn’t have the power to detain her is idiotic. You are idiotic.

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Why is everything so personal? I'm not idiotic.

You know ICE agents can't detain an American citizen for a state traffic offense, for instance, correct?

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So its perfectly fine to be parked perpendicular in the road as long as you arent literally blocking the entire road?

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So contact someone with the authority to enforce traffic laws and get them to write her a ticket. The question is does her conduct rise to the level of a violation of 18 USC 111?

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That's not what you were saying at the beginning of the thread...."what does this cell phone footage prove?"....I believe was the quote, no.
And then you proceeded to get your shite pushed in by the ones that see through your ruse.

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What's the ruse? I thought the big question was "did Good hit the agent who shall not be named?" This doesn't answer that.

It DOES answer things I hadn't considered...eye contact, lack of fear.

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Dude, just stop.

You were wrong here. Admit it.

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There was nothing to be right or wrong about. I asked what did the cellphone video prove. Thanks, I see what it proved.

I'm still not sure the "get out of the fricking car" was a legal order to an American citizen made by an ICE agent.

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A number of things, the now deceased was actually calm didn't appear scared, was 100% aware of the office she hit, and knew she would or could in fact hit the officer once moving forward and did it anyway.

also- the accomplice (wife) is complicit in this, was an aggressor in this, and should be held accountable in some capacity.

That's to name a few

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Thanks. Those are all good points. I was focused on whether or not the video was supposed to show that the agent who shall not be named was hit or not.