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re: Societal question: Would you trade the crime of today vs 70s-90s?

Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:29 pm to
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Is this what passes through graduate school these days?


a person who questions assumptions?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:30 pm to
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a person who questions assumptions?


You're not "questioning assumptions," you're making them.

You really don't see what you just did, do you?

Maybe you are as dim as you're acting.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:32 pm to
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You'd have to know what public safety would be like if the incarceration rates hadn't gone up (plus the information you posted) to conclude that.


Exactly, but I assume this went over her head
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4606 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:32 pm to
In the 80s and 90s, Harris County had a wonderful district attorney named Johnny holms. He sent a lot of people to death row. Now I hardly ever hear of anybody getting death sentences. Guess it's those George soros da's we get now.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61417 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:33 pm to
You’re grumpy this afternoon.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20591 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:33 pm to
I'm a 50's 60's guy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138984 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:34 pm to
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We have to accurately diagnose the problem
The problem is crime.

You are looking for root cause of the problem. You consider incarceration redress after the crime. Your point is, life in prison, does not bring a murdered loved-one back. It does not unwind vandalism, or economic loss. Far better to find a preemptive solution.

So what is it?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61417 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:35 pm to
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The problem is crime.


The result is crime.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110962 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:36 pm to
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I don’t go often but the FQ isn’t nearly
As bad as it was during the COVID years


The Quarter is sort of a mixed bag. There's not a lot of true criminal type personal crime. Fortunately, armed robbery doesn't really work that well in our digital age.

There's still a rather prevalent group of crazies/derilicts that seem a bit more aggressive these days than they did in the past.
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5802 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:38 pm to
Make me a sandwich
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138984 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:38 pm to
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The result is crime.
Fine.
The result is the problem.

What you are seeking is the Root Cause leading to the "result."

What is it?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60685 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:38 pm to
Regarding the quarter, I'm not even talking about crime per se but I think the increased police presence has made it less of a desirable hangout for the undesirables.

I remember taking some people there a few years ago and it was just huge groups of people smoking blunts (not joints) and kind of mean mugging everyone. There is less of that now, in my (limited) experience. I don't leave my uptown bubble very often tbh.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20252 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:41 pm to
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No, we need more prisons.



I'm not sure if we need more prisons, but we definitely need no privately held prisons. I used to think that the prison pipeline was bs liberal talk, but I've seen enough to change my mind. Compounded by the fact that big corporations get cheap labor out of inmates, and private prison profits keep going up, there's really no incentive to cut crime. It's a big business, and people are profiting big from it.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60685 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:43 pm to
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I'm not sure if we need more prisons, but we definitely need no privately held prisons. I used to think that the prison pipeline was bs liberal talk, but I've seen enough to change my mind. Compounded by the fact that big corporations get cheap labor out of inmates, and private prison profits keep going up, there's really no incentive to cut crime. It's a big business, and people are profiting big from it.

I definitely have some contradictory beliefs when it comes to crime/imprisonment and the current private prison system. It's a tough issue
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19983 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:45 pm to
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Violent crime rate reporting has also dipped in most major cities since 2020.


Fify

Crime is waaaay up in just about every major city in the U.S.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5391 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:45 pm to
Hard to compare. We didn't have the technology in the 90s we have today. DNA and surveillance back then was negligible compared to 2026. The crime today should be exponentially lower than it was then but thanks to the culture of coddling criminals and liberal prosecutors/judges, we have not made the type of progress we should have made. If the criminals of the 90s had to deal with the judges/prosecutors of the 90s and the technology of today, there is no way the crime wave of the 90s would have been that bad. They would have been a lot more scared of being caught than they were.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110962 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:48 pm to
Up until even like the early 2000s getting "held up" in the Quarter was a very real concern and a pretty regular occurrence. I know from people who lived there during that timeframe.

You just don't hear much about it these days. I just wonder how much that has to do with the fact that the odds are pretty slim that a holder-upper is going to find anyone carrying any sort of significant cash at all. My suspicion is, it has gone a long way in curtailing that kind of crime.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61417 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:55 pm to
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What is it?


It’s multifaceted. Mental illness. Breakdown of community. Collapse of social norms and values. Economic instability. Social isolation. Addiction. Family dysfunction. Lack of meaning or social investment. Distrust in institutions. Environmental conditions. Educational failure. Concentrated poverty.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:55 pm to
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The result is crime.


LESS crime
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59202 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:56 pm to
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it doesn’t seem plausible that there is a one-size-fits-all problem or solution either.

There is a one size fits all solution but it would make women and soys upset


The sad thing is y’all know what it is and that it would work
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