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Most of what I've heard from him, he's fairly consistently anti-war.


Sure he is.

He's also very consistently retard.

The resulting Venn Diagram isn't an accident.
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So...you want me to furnish the gazillions of reams of research and evidence that YOU SOMEHOW CAN'T FIND?


Nah.

Just one. Maybe two.

What, you can't find them either?

Teacher: "Little Johnny, what is the capital of Texas?"

LJ: "Listen, if you're the teacher and you don't know the answer to that question, I'm certainly not going to be the one to ell you."

(You're Little Johnny in that analogy).
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Sounds like Israel's problem, and the rest of the Middle East



Which contains 70% of the world's oil and shipping lanes that host about 30% of the container shipping in the entire world.

So yeah, nobody should be concerned about instability there.

Nobody with an IQ south of 80, that is.

re: There is no war

Posted by wackatimesthree on 2/28/26 at 8:36 am to
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Kinda like Iraq when we got Saddam?


Uh, yeah.

Those military operations started on March 20, 2003 and Baghdad fell on April 9.

That regime took right at 3 weeks to defeat.

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Why would I want to visit the middle east?


Why wouldn't you?

Since it is so safe for Americans wherever radical Muslims are.
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So if "death to the USA" is a justifiable cause, why did it take 47 years before the US is going to war with them?


Nobody has controlled them the way Trump has.

Trump pretty much shut them down and made them say, "Yes sir" his first term.

Then Biden got into office and began to placate them, they ramped their nuclear weapons grab back up, helped facilitate a war with Israel, and then Trump got back in office again.

It was kind of inevitable (and it's still not a war).
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Uh, NO. That's the myth.


Uh, YES. That's the truth.

Unless you'd like to substantiate the claim.
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Good to see the Trump admin abandon the libertarian myth of isolationism. The strength of the US comes from its ability to exert overwhelming force all over the globe. This reminds autocrats and terrorists who's in charge


Damn right.
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It doesn’t. Just like it didn’t in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Panama, etc, etc, etc.


What a moronic statement.

S. Korea is probably the best argument one could make for military interventions like this. if they all turned out that well you Huckster dickriders would be out of luck.

And most of that list was part of the proxy Cold War that we won against the U.S.S.R., which was the biggest threat to not only every person in the US, but the entire world.

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Iran / Iran-backed terrorist attacks and attack plots against America (since 2020)

Jan 8, 2020 — Iraq (Ayn al-Asad Air Base & Erbil): Iran’s IRGC launched ballistic missiles at bases housing U.S. troops (Operation Martyr Soleimani); dozens of U.S. service members later diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries

Jan 27, 2020 — Iraq (Baghdad): Rockets struck inside the U.S. Embassy compound in the Green Zone

Mar 11, 2020 — Iraq (Camp Taji): Rocket attack killed coalition personnel, including U.S.-linked forces

Mar 14, 2020 — Iraq (Camp Taji): Second rocket attack on the same base

Dec 20, 2020 — Iraq (Baghdad): Rocket attack near the U.S. Embassy, CENTCOM blamed Iran-backed militia

Feb 15, 2021 — Iraq (Erbil / near Erbil International Airport): Rockets hit coalition area; U.S.-led coalition contractor killed; perpetrators widely described as Iran-backed militia using a front group

Mar 3, 2021 — Iraq (Ayn al-Asad Air Base): Rockets struck base housing U.S. troops

Oct 20, 2021 — Syria (al-Tanf garrison): Drone and rocket attack; Pentagon said Iran was responsible

Oct 2021–Apr 2022 (charged Aug 10, 2022) — United States: IRGC member Shahram Poursafi charged with murder-for-hire plot targeting former U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton

Aug 24, 2022 — Syria (Conoco & Green Village): Coordinated rocket attacks on U.S. military facilities by suspected Iran-backed militants

Jan 4, 2023 — Syria (Conoco gas field): Rockets struck U.S. site; monitoring groups said attackers were Iran-armed

Jan 20, 2023 — Syria (al-Tanf): Suicide drones attacked U.S. garrison; Iran-backed groups suspected

Mar 23, 2023 — Syria (near Hasakah): Iranian-origin one-way UAV killed a U.S. contractor and wounded U.S. personnel; attack tied to IRGC-affiliated actors

Oct 17, 2023 — Iraq & Syria: Start of sustained wave of rocket and drone attacks on U.S. forces by Iran-backed militias

Dec 3, 2023 — Red Sea / Yemen-linked attacks: Houthi missiles and drones, including threats toward USS Carney; U.S. Central Command said attacks were “fully enabled by Iran”

Dec 25, 2023 — Iraq (Erbil area): One-way drone attack injured U.S. personnel; U.S. struck Iran-aligned Kata’ib Hezbollah

Jan 28, 2024 — Jordan (Tower 22): Drone attack killed 3 U.S. service members and wounded many more; attackers described as Iran-backed militants operating from Iraq/Syria

Mar 2024 — Red Sea / Gulf of Aden: Large-scale Houthi drone and missile salvos involving U.S. naval assets

Apr 22, 2024 — Iraq & Syria: Renewed rocket and drone attacks on U.S. forces attributed to Iran-backed groups



There's something common to all of those events, but I can't put my finger on what it might be.

Something about the date range...it's on the tip of my tongue.
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And when did the Death to the USA chant start?


Feb 11, 1979.

When radical Islam took the country over as a result of the Ayatollah Khomeini regime change.
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we don't need to prove anything except to document every dollar of the illegal tariffs that we paid.


Nobody does.

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Our transactions are business to business


It wouldn't matter if they weren't.
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You never should have worried about Iran in the first place, dummy, They’re not a threat to us.


The irony of y'all idiocy is that the question is framed to be about the average American, not the integrity of the country as a whole.

The last group of "average Americans" killed on American soil (around 3,000 of them) were killed by exactly the kind of terrorists that Iran creates, funds, and exports.

Now the US itself wasn't harmed by those attacks, but "average Americans" were.

Those of you who are still lagging behind the curve and who haven't figured out that Huckster Carlson is a grifting idiot might want to change your question.
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IDK about you but I like not having to worry about an Iran with nuclear weapons

Oh...and that's not to mention the terror they export


It's not a hard question to answer.

If you're not being intentionally obtuse.
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Was Iran ever really a threat?


Sure.

The last Americans killed on our own soil were killed by exactly the kind of terrorists that Iran habitually funds.

Why would they not be a threat?

They are also the world's biggest threat to star a nuclear war of they ever get nuclear weapons.

So here's the question for you: How does Iran nuking Israel and Israel nuking Iran back (which is a certainty if Iran gets the weapons) benefit anybody in the world?
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How does war with Iran help the average American?


I'll answer that question when the US actually goes to war with Iran.

Right now there have been zero US casualties reported and the spokespeople are telling news outlets that they expect the operation to last days.

That's not a war.
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Welp


I won't object to you saying it now, although in my world the enemy has to be able to effectively fight back for it to actually be a war.

At this point we have zero reports of US casualties and the spokespeople told NBC that the military action "could last for several days."

You could call that a "war" if you want to—I won't object—but i think if you'll just be patient just a little while you might find out that this is over before you know it.

People don't realize how far ahead the US has pulled in terms of military dominance.
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You need to work on your nuance.


Yeah, o.k.

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Pro tip:it’s kinda hard to nail the nuance while trying to be condescending at the same time.


Excellent. Thanks for those pearls of wisdom.

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You aren’t going to pull that off as you would hope.


I guess I will give up hope, then. Thanks for being honest with me about my hopes and dreams.


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Meh. In the same bullet point you pretty much called anyone who believed Trump’s “campaign speak” in saying “no new wars” an idiot, obviously insinuating that Trump was not being genuine with that campaign statement, then immediately in the very next sentence cited the two examples that I mentioned. I think it’s rather clear that you were asserting “Of course he doesn’t mean it when he says ‘no new wars’……look no further than Syria and the assassination of yadda yadda.” If that’s not what you meant, then you’re confused and confusing.


What I meant was (only) slightly nuanced, which is obviously beyond your capabilities.

I'm not spending time explaining it to you. I don't care enough to do so.