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And then you called your own rewrite narcissistic.

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:lol:

I quoted what you said.

What YOU said. That's what I called toxic and narcissistic. Not what I said.

At first that comment just seemed like a tone deaf, privileged "let them eat cake" sort of comment, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized, that statement wasn't about anybody but you.

You don't care that women are out there in the wild being valued for their looks instead of their mental acuity or competence or demeanor.

Because again, that's not just women. That's everybody. EVERYBODY is judged based on how they appear to people who do not know them. And that's no profound realization...it's self evident to pretty much anybody over the age of maybe 11 or 12.

So this is either a pathetic humble brag or an impotent rage against the machine (depending upon whether you are generally considered to be attractive or not). Either way, it reeks of being personal.

The only other possibility I can imagine is that feminist propaganda has you convinced that only women are judged by looks when it's obviously the entirety of humankind.

And based on some other things that are just as obviously false that you have nevertheless alleged on this thread, I could believe that possibility, except that I would expect a little different angle if that were really the case.

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There’s no indication that a court order was not obtained.

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Yep, got it.

Like I said, I just wanted to understand whether the OP was alleging illegal behavior or simply behavior he didn't like, or as SFP has said, behavior that should be illegal.

I'm good. I got my answer.

Thanks for the explanation of terms.

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Nothing I've seen alleged with specificity is illegal behavior.

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Yeah, that's what I said.

I didn't say it was not legal. I said it was not illegal.

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And if the therapist and doctors told the parents that their daughter would kill herself if the surgery wasn't done?

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Which they almost certainly did.

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Do you want these surgeries to stop? Then lawsuits are the way.

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Probably. Maybe. See below.

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I really don't get people who are against an action but then demand that there can only be one solution, especially when that solution is not very viable.

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I disagree with him in this specific instance—if the facts given are accurate, these physicians were liable.

However, I do sympathize with him about lawsuits being a poor solution. Here's why...this lawsuit was successful because not enough due diligence was done. It wasn't successful because the kid regretted it. It was successful because the records didn't show enough due diligence before performing the surgery.

I personally don't trust (in particular) the psychiatric/psychology community to not create a sham "measurement tool" to use to qualify these kids for the surgeries and insulate themselves from lawsuits.

Unless I miss my guess, there's someone out there working on something like that right now. The psychiatric community already does this with "studies" about whether homosexuality is normal/healthy. Everything is designed to produce the result they want, not find out the truth.

So lawsuits may be what we've got right now and I'm glad to see the result of this one (and I think people pouting about the child being awarded money are so fricking stupid I can't believe it), but he's right that we shouldn't rely just on lawsuits.

If a bunch of successful suits hit at once the insurance carriers may just pull the plug on insuring doctors who do this sort of thing, that could happen. And if it does, problem solved.

But it's not guaranteed because of what I posted above. Right now it's a race and this lawsuit was the starter pistol. Can the psychiatric community create the smoke & mirrors it needs to keep the butchering going before the insurance carriers tap out. That's the game right now. At least IMO.

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If more successful lawsuits are forthcoming, hopefully none.

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What woke leftist pedophile a-hole is on here downvoting posts like this?

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What companies are insuring doctors and hospitals that perform child genital mutilation?

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If more successful lawsuits are forthcoming, hopefully none.

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They got a local (crooked) magistrate to sign off on the warrant.

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Missed this the first time through. That's my answer.

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This is where the responsibility lies but you will get down voted as I was.

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The parents bear responsibility, but they don't bear professional responsibility.

The doctors do.

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When he dies, and you see the global celebration, you might then realize that your view is not widely shared.

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:lol:

Just what we need.

Another, "What happened to Huckster, he used to be awesome but now he's gone crazy?" thread.

We certainly don't have enough of those up in here.