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It does work.

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No it doesn't, not long term, and the science is very clear on it.

If the long term success rate for vaccinations or Lasik surgery or knee replacement or ANYTHING else was as low as it is for "eat less, move more," literally no one would consider it an effective intervention. In fact, people would consider it a scam.

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Oh boy.

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I know this board hates facts, but everything I posted about obesity is supported by reams of research.

If you think it's not appropriate to refer to it as a hormonal disease, what would you call it?

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Trump is Obama in Republican clothes.

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Whether he started out that way or not, he definitely is now.

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I want to thank you all for the wonderful responses. I got busy yesterday so I wasn't able to respond, but the responses do make me feel better. A lot to process but I also think there's a ton of good recommendations here, I think it's just seeing which ones work for me.

Since I started this, I've eased up on my hesitancy to go on a GLP-1 or other weight loss medications. Like others have said, taking a medicine might prevent bigger issues down the road if I don't lose the excess weight. Even if I am diabetic, I know if I get my weight down I can reverse that.

My goal will still be to go off the medications, and do a fair amount of the lifestyle changes recommended here. And I appreciate everyone's feedback!

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Be careful with the advice given here. The people giving you advice here are not nutritionists.

My personal opinion is that you understand what you are up against by looking into what I wrote above for yourself.

Also understand this...your diabetes may or may not be related to your weight. 25% of people who develop type 2 diabetes are not (and never were) overweight, and over a third of obese people never develop diabetes.

So they certainly can be and often are related, but not necessarily.

Just because you lose weight, that doesn't guarantee that your diabetes will reverse.

I personally follow the general strategy of trying to solve problems without drugs first and do not use them as a first line treatment. Only if drugless fails. Plus, the latest research shows that people on GLP-1 medication gain weight back 4 times faster than people who lost weight without it.

And not necessarily "when they stop taking it." I have a buddy who lost probably 90 lbs on that medication and gained it all back while he was still taking the meds.

Again, that shows you what you are up against. Those hormonal changes were sufficient for him to gain all that weight back even while on the meds.

And BTW, I didn't type these things to discourage you. It's just to help you be realistic about this.

People declare weight loss success when they see someone lose weight and keep it off for a year or two. Long term is considered five years or more. Long term is really tough for the vast majority.

I don't think it's hopeless, but the thing I agree with most that the guy I responded to above said is that it kind of does depend on what you're willing to do to keep it off long term (losing it in the first place is relatively easy...pick any one of about two dozen ways to do that, any of them will work; I'm talking about keeping it off long term). And I'm not talking about running five miles a day (which would help you less than you think), I'm talking about doing things like adhering to Regular Eating, where you eat very regimented meals every 3-4 hours, and you do it separating yourself from any other form of stimulation (like eating while watching t.v. or going out to eat) so as to separate your reward cascade from food as much as possible.

Yeah, you basically have to make it not pleasurable to eat. (It doesn't have to be unpleasant, but it does need to be completely neutral). You will need to weigh every day and keep a very close eye on your caloric intake because you won't be able to trust the usual height/weight-you -can-eat-this-many-calories-a-day-and-not-gain-weight tables and calculations.

And you have to do all of that and make sure you don't develop an eating disorder from putting so much emphasis on eating, which is a real concern.

So. It can be done. But it's 'effing hard. Who knows, though, maybe you'll be one of the lucky few whose hormones just fall back in line and don't cause all that chaos.

If they say an F-sound instead of the TH-sound they should be making, as in "Fanks for nofing," I want to hit them as hard as I am capable of.

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The interaction was fake. Why would I need to watch the video?

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You don't have to watch anything.

But I'm not going to wipe your arse for you and tell you what's in it if you choose not to. That's not my job.

The significance of the video even though the interaction was fake was explained in the post you responded to, and the video is very clear about who the hatred is directed at.

So watch it or don't. But if you don't and just want me to explain it to you, frick you.

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Now are you going to respond

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I did respond. I responded appropriately to a stupid question on your part.

Deleted, because I said I would.

Deleted, because I said I would.

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There aren't many black college football fans.

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True.

I think they have a name for the biggest group of those. I think they call them "parents."

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I'm ethnically Jewish but this made me cringe more because it was very obviously fake and staged than anything said by the guy.

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What should have made you cringe is that it was staged and filmed in the first place because it will get lots of clicks.

The interaction was fake. The Joo hatred isn't.

Again?

This has been going on for years now but for some reason it never actually happens.

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Does your arse hurt when you pull silly numbers out of it?

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That's what I remember.

What's your recollection?

If you say anything lower than 70%, then you're just lying.