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re: Societal question: Would you trade the crime of today vs 70s-90s?

Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:15 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62483 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:15 am to
You realize the POTUS has convictions, right?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6825 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:15 am to
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What in the shittin' hell kind of people are you associating with?


People she is paid to associate with?
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7089 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:19 am to
I don’t know where you grew up but I graduated high school in 1977. Crime was not a problem where I grew up. Also race relations were very good. We partied with any one regardless of race
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21239 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:19 am to
She's "paid" to associate with scumbags?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6825 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:33 am to
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She's "paid" to associate with scumbags?


Did you not read her posts?
Yes, she is paid to try to rehab individuals through teaching.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124242 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:00 am to
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momma to these people


That’s a hopeless situation. Go help people that want it.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21239 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:55 am to
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Did you not read her posts?


Not really, no. I avoid the 5 or 6 Marxists that are regulars here. I initially try to converse with pretty much everyone, but after awhile it becomes insane.

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Yes, she is paid to try to rehab individuals through teaching.


She's in charge of teaching children? Good God, that's insane. Who would entrust their children with her?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14643 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:03 pm to
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You realize the POTUS has convictions, right?


You probably associated with some people during the course of your work that had been wrongly convicted of whatever it was they were convicted for. Statistically that would make sense with even the lowest estimates of innocent people being nevertheless convicted and incarcerated at 4% (and as high as 10%).

Statistically i would think you would have had to have come across some of those people.

Well, none of them were as egregiously falsely convicted as the convictions you never pass up the opportunity to mention as though they are actual legitimate convictions.

And you know it.

Which is why your doe eyed, "Who, me?" act is so transparent when you deny having a raging case of TDS.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62483 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:29 pm to
You misunderstand. I pointed to Trump to illustrate that criminal convictions alone are not a reliable measure of a person’s character or legitimacy.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124242 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:04 pm to
Do you not think there are better causes to spend your time on rather than trying to rehab criminals? I have sat through too many revocation hearings. A lot of these folks you think you are helping have no intention of participating in society. We can argue all day about how we got there but you know it’s the truth.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39826 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:52 pm to
It would be interesting to see social media response to the insane crime levels of the Drug War-era if it had existed in the same form. That amplifies attitudes towards crime even when statistically the amount of crimes has decreased from that era.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:00 pm to
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Yes, she is paid to try to rehab individuals through teaching.


More utopian money grift.

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The 401,288 state prisoners released in 2005 had 1,994,000 arrests during the 9-year period, an average of 5 arrests per released prisoner. Sixty percent of these arrests occurred during years 4 through 9.

An estimated 68% of released prisoners were arrested within 3 years, 79% within 6 years, and 83% within 9 years.

Eighty-two percent of prisoners arrested during the 9-year period were arrested within the first 3 years.

Almost half (47%) of prisoners who did not have an arrest within 3 years of release were arrested during years 4 through 9.

Forty-four percent of released prisoners were arrested during the first year following release, while 24% were arrested during year-9.


The only thing thats been shown to keep the public "safe" is mass incarceration. A relative few commit a massive disproportionate number of crimes.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
62483 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:03 pm to
I split my time between various service-oriented causes. My primary vocation is wife and mother. I try to devote the bulk of the rest of my time to living the Corporal Works of Mercy, one of which is “visit the imprisoned.”

I have a problem with the criminal justice system in this state and country. What better way to enact or inspire change than from within it?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42137 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:08 pm to
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Sure. And maybe we need to get that overweight/obesity rate up to 90%.


No need for these analogies about fat people.

Just stick to your silly idea that a bad person is just as likely to murder an innocent while imprisoned.

Nearly all of them are not gang bosses ordering hits on random innocents.

They are locked away, and you are safe from them because of that.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40115 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:19 pm to
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You misunderstand. I pointed to Trump to illustrate that criminal convictions alone are not a reliable measure of a person’s character or legitimacy.
What percentage of "criminal convictions" in question do you think are white collar?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42137 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:47 pm to
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Nope. This has been explained to you a dozen times. You might find 1 person out of 1000 who has actually been convicted of violent crimes who was just let go.


It’s in the news every week:

#new The man caught on video opening fire in Boston has been identified as a violent criminal with a lengthy rap sheet.
#boston
Tyler Brown was let out of prison early by a liberal judge after being convicted of trying to m*rder a police officer.

The 46-year-old used a rifle to shoot at random cars along a busy street in Cambridge on Monday afternoon, firing 50 to 60 shots and critically injuring two men who were rushed to Boston hospitals.
#gun
Brown was shot by Police and a former Marine who was armed, forcing him to drop his weapon.

He was taken into custody and hospitalized in a Boston ICU.

He faces charges including armed assault with intent to m*rder.
#police
In 2020, Brown was arrested after a shootout with Boston Police after they were called out to a man-with-a-gun call. He shot 13 rounds, including shots at close range at one officer’s chest.

At the time he was on probation from a 2014 conviction for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon (stabbing) and witness intimidation.

In August 2021, Brown pleaded guilty to eight charges, including:

??Armed assault with intent to m*rder,
??Attempted assault and battery by means of discharging a firearm,
??Three counts of assault with a dangerous weapon,
??Unlawful possession of a firearm as a subsequent offender, c
??Carrying a loaded firearm, and
??Possession of a large capacity feeding device.

Prosecutors wanted a 12 year prison sentence, Judge Janet Sanders sentenced him to 5-6 years in state prison plus three years probation which was served with credits and concurrency, leading to about 3 years total.

He received credit for time served. Then-DA Rachael Rollins publicly criticized the sentence as too light.

One involved Boston Police officer wrote in a victim impact statement: "

I am a firm believer that when Mr. Tyler Brown gets out, he will hurt, or worse, kill someone. Probation apparently means nothing to Mr. Tyler Brown, nor does the value of life."

Brown had a criminal history spanning nearly 20 years and was under probation or parole supervision at the time of the Cambridge shooting.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42137 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:49 pm to
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You realize the POTUS has convictions, right?


List them. See how relevant they are.

Don’t be a coward
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