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re: Societal question: Would you trade the crime of today vs 70s-90s?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:02 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:02 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I definitely have some contradictory beliefs when it comes to crime/imprisonment and the current private prison system. It's a tough issue
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:02 pm to 4cubbies
quote:No he didn’t.
You just admitted
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:06 pm to hogcard1964
You are running with a narrative that simply is not the case. Maybe thefts are up, but violent assaults are down and aside from an uptick during Covid just about all categories are down and have been trending that way for the past 10 -12 years
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:11 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Increasing occurrence and/or expression?
Mental illness.
Why?
A mental illness posit seems weak to me, fwiw
quote:Interesting.
Breakdown of community. Collapse of social norms and values. ... Educational failure
Let's presume all that is accurate. What is the cause?
quote:All those would fall under root cause of hopelessness, IMO. Could hopelessness secondarily relate to breakdown of community, collapse of social norms and values, and educational failure?
Social isolation. Addiction. Family dysfunction. Lack of meaning or social investment.
quote:Weak. No ownership.
Distrust in institutions. Environmental conditions.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:14 pm to 4cubbies
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Mental illness. Breakdown of community. Collapse of social norms and values. Economic instability. Social isolation. Addiction. Family dysfunction. Lack of meaning or social investment. Distrust in institutions. Environmental conditions. Educational failure. Concentrated poverty.
The democrat politicians you vote for are to blame for every single one of those you listed.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:19 pm to icecreamsnowball
quote:They are to blame for most. Treatment of mental illness is a bipartisan fault.
democrat politicians ... are to blame for every single one of those you listed.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:19 pm to 4cubbies
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The result is crime.
Maybe but 3.1% of our population is responsible for 63% of all violent crime.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:25 pm to 4cubbies
Private prisons by definition want higher crime rates or redefinition of what is a crime for business purposes. Without crime they have a failed business plan
For them crime is good for business.
For them crime is good for business.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:25 pm to NC_Tigah
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They are to blame for most. Treatment of mental illness is a bipartisan fault.
The difference is liberals encourage mental illness. They teach people to be mentally ill woke losers.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:49 pm to 4cubbies
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Family dysfunction
Almost every bad outcome you can think of is tied to a single parent household.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:58 pm to Bunk Moreland
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NYC is probably even.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:03 pm to NC_Tigah
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Increasing occurrence and/or expression?
Does it matter?
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Interesting.
Let's presume all that is accurate. What is the cause?
I’m not sure. I have some ideas but I can’t pinpoint a singular cause. That’s sort of the premise of this whole discussion. These factors are related and multifaceted. I haven’t heard a simple explanation that I’m willing to accept yet.
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All those would fall under root cause of hopelessness, IMO. Could hopelessness secondarily relate to breakdown of community, collapse of social norms and values, and educational failure?
Absolutely. Maybe it’s rooted the increased societal emphasis on consumerism and secularism?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:03 pm to icecreamsnowball
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The democrat politicians you vote for are to blame for every single one of those you listed.
Ok. Let’s say they are. Now what?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:06 pm to KiwiHead
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Private prisons by definition want higher crime rates or redefinition of what is a crime for business purposes. Without crime they have a failed business plan
For them crime is good for business.
Correct but it’s much deeper than private prisons. Many entities benefit and profit from public prisons as well. Literally everything is commodified in prisons - phone calls, commissary, labor…
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:11 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Yes. In a huge way.
Does it matter?
quote:Do not wait for someone else to formulate some contrived BS opinion!
I haven’t heard a simple explanation that I’m willing to accept yet.
Do this yourself, Cubs!
Your heart is in the right place. You have the credentials.
Come up with a hypothesis and proceed. Make it your thing
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:13 pm to 4cubbies
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Now what
Reduce government dependence. Instill pride. Crack down on crime with an iron first.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:29 pm to NIH
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Crack down on crime with an iron first.
How?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:30 pm to 4cubbies
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Ok. Let’s say they are. Now what?
Quit voting blue
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:35 pm to djsdawg
Not sure why the assumption is that I do. But if I stop voting altogether, will that solve all our problems across the entire country?
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:42 pm to NC_Tigah
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Do this yourself, Cubs!
I honestly appreciate this vote of confidence.
I am feeling very burnt out. I try very hard to be the change but it’s extremely disheartening to be surrounded by people who are using their power and resources to undermine the things I stand for. This whole thing with restructuring the courts in New Orleans has really messed with me. I’m interviewing somewhere next week. I don’t see the point in what I’m doing anymore.
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