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re: Kids wanting change and socialism questions..
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:54 pm to kingbob
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:54 pm to kingbob
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Basically, the status quo isn’t really working. Anyone who is under 40 who has had to look for a job since Covid knows what I am talking about. We have engineers and stem graduates who are struggling to find work amidst rapidly rising costs.
My nephew and his wife are both engineers and graduated a couple of years ago.
Neither have had any issues getting very good jobs.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:56 pm to UtahCajun
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Many will be unhappy.
Of course, see France
They are perpetually unhappy people, which is another part of the problem.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:00 pm to bbvdd
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My nephew and his wife are both engineers and graduated a couple of years ago.
Neither have had any issues getting very good jobs
That's awesome.
What kind of engineers?
The data is poor because of selective sampling (returned surveys from recent grads).
75% of Ga Tech engineers have a job lined up at graduation. The data fluctuates from 85% to 70% depending on type of engineering degree.
I make the assumption that maybe 40% don't have jobs right away (those who don't want to return the survey). And maybe half of those don't have jobs in their field after a year.
That is still rough on those recent grads.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:05 pm to WWII Collector
You are spot on. I remember graduating from LSU in the mid 90’s. Not a lot of jobs out there at that time and a lot of us had trouble just finding something. I ended up starting a job that paid 21k per year.
Guess what? I didn’t have money to go buy a new car and I rented for several years. I couldn’t afford a house until my income caught up with home prices. I didn’t go to Vegas with my buddies every year and when I went out I drank natty lite. I always tell my kids, you bust your arse at work and get by with what you have. Life isn’t easy.
Guess what? I didn’t have money to go buy a new car and I rented for several years. I couldn’t afford a house until my income caught up with home prices. I didn’t go to Vegas with my buddies every year and when I went out I drank natty lite. I always tell my kids, you bust your arse at work and get by with what you have. Life isn’t easy.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:10 pm to TideCPA
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Like consumer prices from tariffs?
This is a national security issue.
We have to make things here. Chips, steel, energy, medicine, food.
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And inflation driven by gov't spending?
As I pointed out, no party is going to address this.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:17 pm to TrueTiger
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Like consumer prices from tariffs?
This is a national security issue.
I am not a fan of tariffs as a matter of price control.
But I agree with tariffs as a punitive measure against illegal foreign actions (China pirates intellectual property, there is very little recourse without tariffs or trade restrictions).
I am a fan of consumption taxes. If I am building a US tax structure from scratch, I am basing it off the back of consumption taxes. And the first consumption that I would tax would be foreign made goods. The concept of consumption taxes is that they should be offset by a reduction or elimination of income taxes.
I also agree with you that national security for goods is of high importance. I don't know that tariffs are the best long term strategy. But I see it as a good short term incentive to encourage local investment in capital projects.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:24 pm to kingbob
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Anyone who is under 40 who has had to look for a job since Covid knows what I am talking about.
I sure don't. Had a private equity company take over my decent job and throw our whole team out with minimal severance or warning. It sucked.
I moved on. Took a less-lucrative job, but didn't have a bunch of stupid debt to drag me down. Built that up into a position where I'm proud of myself and better than my last position. It took a few years.
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primarily due to the rising costs of healthcare, rent, and education.
A lot of this can be managed. When I was younger I rented smaller crappy apartments. Lot of people I knew just had to have a super place with a pool and marble counters. Also if education is too expensive, there are LOTS OF WAYS around this. Live at home. Community college. Trade school. Scholarships. I know lots of tradesmen I work with making well into six figures laughing at the fine arts college boys. You don't need a giant house. You don't need two trucks. You don't need a boat or a jetski.
Freaken a man, be grateful we live so much better then even western europeans who live in a crappy apartment and drive a hatchback 3 cylinder.
There is so much entitlement and ignratitude out there these days.
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:26 pm to WWII Collector
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I was watching a video and some college kid was saying that we need socialism. Tax the rich, feed and house the poor.
She went on to say that The Government of The United States must fall for things to be better.
I thought if the government falls, then so does social security which I paid in all my life like others who did to have a little something.
Now these kids want to over throw the government and want socialism to help subsidize them.
So If I am understand this right, they just dont want to work like we did. They just want stuff free now without paying the price. They want to put the burden on others.
How close aam I to being right?
Discuss.
Let's get the biggest issue out of the way first: the girl being young. Young people are easily swayed by seemingly simple answers. Their newness to the topic means they haven't learned enough to know what follow-up questions they should be asking. They are also more emotionally driven, so a simple answer that also gives a warm, fuzzy feeling is going to hook many of them in.
The next issue is that they are being indoctrinated by a lot of socialist thinking. The teachers pushing this tripe are either too emotionally driven themselves or they know the truth of what they are teaching but still stupidly (not ignorantly) believe they will be part of the elite caste the changes benefit. Sorry xim/zer, you're going to be the first tossed off a roof or taken away in a van ride you never return from once the regime you longed for solidifies their power.
The final issue is that while some very few make it big right off the bat, the majority of people have to struggle to get to prosperity. This isn't just true now, it's always been true. One of the great appeals to The Honeymooners at the time was that it didn't showcase the characters in upper-class environments while trying to present them as being just middle class. Today, we have social media influencers pushing off bullshite of being wealthy when a lot of them are actually just struggling to get by.
The vast, VAST majority of people do not stay in the same income bracket that start off in, with the majority of that group being upwardly mobile throughout their lives. What far too many people fixate on are those who have stayed in the workforce for 15-20 years (or more) and assume they have always made that much. It's horseshite.
So they take all this of this, view it through their faulty lens and decide "UNFAIR" and that government is the great equalizer without truly understanding what they are complaining about nor the solution they believe they want.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:31 pm to meansonny
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If your argument that free markets are dead because of something 18 years ago
The problem is the bailouts never stopped and continue to this day. Treasury just intervened in the Yen for more than either of those programs and it was not to help Japan. It was to save the same groups again. And this is just one example, there have been dozens. SVB bank was another. The bond holders and major depositors were bailed out. We are so far from capitalism now it is laughable. And the AI bailouts are about to start.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:50 pm to mb6355
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And the AI bailouts are about to start.
You are taking crazy pills.
Lol
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:04 pm to 0
quote:That is a direct result of federal government giving loans to everyone. The schools get 100% of their money and have no skin in the game, No accountability. People can get 40k for school, but can’t get a 5k loan for a clunker car. How is it in 50 years, a private high school education has only increased 500% ( $5,500 in 1985 to $28,000 in 2026) and college tuitions have exploded by @ 3,500% ($800 in 1985 to $28,000 in 2026). The Federal government got involved.
Its not about being hard, its about being affordable. A degree from LSU in 1990 would cost about 10k. Now its over 10k a year. Want to take a guess if starting wages for a recent college graduate have risen enough to cover that increase?
Everything is more expensive because of federal government sticking their nose in shite….
Homes
Health insurance
Green new deal cause and effects
Wide open borders driving wages down
Entitlement programs pushing people to sit on their arse instead of work.
Hell, even car companies get bailouts tax breaks.
Free market would self adjust, but these democrat/socialist frick everything up.
There is not a noteworthy innovation or invention to come out of a socialist country. Anything worth a crap was stolen, copied or reverse engineered. Innovation and capitalism built this country and hard work has always been rewarded, showing anyone with a great idea can succeed. The Pet Rock showed that.
Here’s a good exercise, from 1920 until today, name me a production car from a socialist country that is collectable or has gone up in value.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:36 pm to kingbob
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The reality is zoomers are working far more hours on average than previous generations at that age yet have significantly less disposable income, primarily due to the rising costs of healthcare, rent, and education.
This is complete bullshite. These zoomers have the lowest work ethic I have seen in my entire time on this planet... but you are right, they want free stuff. they want twice the pay and a 20 hr work week.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:48 pm to rltiger
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There is not a noteworthy innovation or invention to come out of a socialist country.
Holy frick really? Guess your bluetooth headphones aren't real. Gimme a break. Per chatGPT
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Invention / Innovation Country of Origin Year
Jabra Bluetooth mobile headset Denmark 2000
GN ReSound open-fit hearing aid technology Denmark 2003
Klarna buy-now-pay-later platform Sweden 2005
Össur Proprio Foot adaptive robotic prosthesis Iceland 2006
Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) Finland 2006
Spotify music-streaming platform Sweden 2006
Universal Robots collaborative robotic arm (UR5) Denmark 2008
Hövding inflatable bicycle helmet Sweden 2011
iZettle mobile card payment reader Sweden 2011
Carbfix basalt-based carbon mineralization technology Iceland 2012
MobilePay mobile payment system Denmark 2013
Kahoot! interactive learning platform Norway 2013
Sailfish mobile operating system Finland 2013
Jabra wireless earbuds with integrated heart-rate monitoring Denmark 2014
Oura smart health-tracking ring Finland 2015
Spinnova wood-based textile fiber technology Finland 2015
Too Good To Go food-waste reduction platform Denmark 2015
Einride autonomous electric freight vehicle Sweden 2016
Solar Foods Solein microbial protein Finland 2017
reMarkable digital paper tablet Norway 2017
Genki Wave gesture-controlled MIDI ring Iceland 2018
IQM superconducting quantum computers Finland 2018
Nordic Semiconductor nRF91 cellular IoT system-in-package Norway 2018
LEGO Braille Bricks Denmark 2019
Yara Birkeland autonomous electric container ship Norway 2021
Climeworks–Carbfix direct-air-capture mineralization facility Iceland / Switzerland 2021
Vestas V236-15 MW offshore wind turbine Denmark 2022
Northvolt sodium-ion battery technology Sweden 2023
1X NEO humanoid home robot prototype Norway 2024
Bluetooth high-data-throughput silicon demonstration Norway 2026
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:15 pm to atlgamecockman
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Holy frick really? Guess your bluetooth headphones aren't real. Gimme a break. Per chatGPT
Good lord, those aren’t socialist countries, those are market based capitalist countries.
Chatgpt. LOL.
These are you socialist countries
• People's Republic of China
• Republic of Cuba
• Lao People's Democratic Republic (Laos)
• Socialist Republic of Vietnam
• Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea)
Edited to add former socialist countries…
•.USSR
• East Germany
• Yugoslavia
• Czechoslovakia
• Poland
• Hungary
• Romania
• Bulgaria
Since the fall of the Berlin wall and with these countries transition to democracies and capitalism, they probably have had some meaningful innovations and inventions.
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:22 pm to atlgamecockman
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"I got mine, I'll spend it how I want!" Yeah, maybe if you passed a little down to help the generation after yours you might have less people begging for socialism. Too selfish to make that connection though I reckon.
Social media has made it too easy to be soft AF without embarrassment.
"If you don't give me your shite, I'm going to vote with the socialists" - what a whiny bitch.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:27 pm to atlgamecockman
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"I got mine, I'll spend it how I want!" Yeah, maybe if you passed a little down to help the generation after yours you might have less people begging for socialism. Too selfish to make that connection though I reckon.
I hope you're trolling . . . If you truly believe this than the problem here lies with the man in the mirror not the Boomers spending their hard earned money.
The biggest takeaway from that article is Gen Z figured it out and started saving for retirement earlier than previous generations. That tells me assuming we avoid the impending socialist revolution they will have better retirements than the rest of us.
Newsflash every generation has struggled. The only difference is that in 2024 the youth went Republican so now we've had to endure daily articles telling the younger generations to hate the boomers and they are the reason why you can't afford the life you believe you deserve.
The shame of the matter is the younger generation doesn't see that they are nothing more than a political pawn here and are buying it hook, line and sinker.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:32 pm to armytiger96
Oh he votin for dem skrong black womens
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:49 pm to atlgamecockman
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also know your dollars went farther and afforded more. That's sort of the problem that was referenced earlier in the thread.
According to conjecture and how you feel but not according to real world measurable data. Inflation annualized from 2000 to 2026 is 2.67% which is below historical 3%.
Meanwhile nominal wages have risen at a rate of 3.32% in that same period. So technically you have more spending power today than previous generations had. It just doesn't feel like it.
In before the someone starts using ratios salary to housing price to prove me wrong. No shite . . . the gap has been getting bigger every year since we started measuring these data points and will continue to get bigger every year. It's mathematics and TVM.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 7:02 pm to td1
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If we had free markets banks wouldn’t have taken the risk to loan mortgage level money to Deshaun and deshelia, or Vicki the stripper to buy a house they couldn’t afford.
And those policies were put into place because . . . we had an affordability crisis and needed to make purchasing a house available to everyone!
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Making the Dream of Homeownership a Reality Highest Homeownership Rate in History. The Clinton-Gore Administration is dedicated to making the dream of homeownership a reality for all Americans. In 1995, the Administration began an unprecedented partnership with more than 50 key public and private sector organizations to form a National Homeownership Strategy with the goal of helping more Americans become homeowners. The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent in the third quarter of 2000, the highest ever recorded.
Someone remind me I can't remember what happened approximately ten years later.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 7:11 pm to WWII Collector
Indoctrination worked! Simple as that....

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